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Old 12-06-2017, 11:07 AM   #81
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Yep, love the smaller boats. Our first was a 26' CC Cavalier cruiser. Plenty of room for two 28 yr olds back then. But now 34 yrs later we are planning for the loop, and with two married children and many, many good friends - all of whom will be spending weeks/months with us on the loop. Now, bigger is better, ie two, or three cabins, two heads, covered sundeck.....
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Old 12-06-2017, 11:31 AM   #82
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and room to store lots more than the basics....
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Does the Camano have a wet head? If so, that would be a deal breaker for me.
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Old 12-06-2017, 01:54 PM   #84
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Does the Camano have a wet head? If so, that would be a deal breaker for me.
If the Camano has one stall shower and one wet head, I would encourage you to disable the shower in the wet head. (take the shower head and hose off, hide them or lose them over the side.) If your guest do not like it, they dont have to go with you. Wet heads are a bear to clean and your guests will never clean it to your standards.
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Even a dedicated shower stall is a headache, but less than a wet head.
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Old 12-06-2017, 04:49 PM   #86
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Even a dedicated shower stall is a headache, but less than a wet head.
Ah yup still a headache but you gotta shower somewhere if you go out in public. If the dog and or cat refuse to sit with you, time to shower. LOL
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Old 12-06-2017, 05:13 PM   #87
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Yep, love the smaller boats. Our first was a 26' CC Cavalier cruiser. Plenty of room for two 28 yr olds back then. But now 34 yrs later we are planning for the loop, and with two married children and many, many good friends - all of whom will be spending weeks/months with us on the loop. Now, bigger is better, ie two, or three cabins, two heads, covered sundeck.....
We make a lot of five foot itis or whatever we choose to call it. However, much of the changes in sizes are simply a matter of going through life stages. Small is good to start. Then we seem to need more. Then it seems we reach the point that returning to smaller makes sense. We do the same in houses. Most of us start in apartments and then when we're old many return to condos.

I only hit as high as 30' on my fifth boat.
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Old 12-06-2017, 05:25 PM   #88
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The original Camano had a wet head...
The new Helmsman redesign has a dry head with vanity and a totally separate shower stall.
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Old 12-06-2017, 07:27 PM   #89
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Confused, Our boat has what you folks are calling a 'Wet Head' I guess, as the two, commode and shower share the same space. Our walls are formica, after a shower, a simple wipe down of the walls no more than a minute one would suppose, and check to see that the t/paper remained dry which is the case due to location. No big deal on the
'Slo~Belle', in fact another attribute to our boat when space utilization is in play.
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A dedicated shower stall requires less wiping down of various surfaces such as the toilet as well as cleaning-solution containers handily kept aside a "dry" toilet.
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Confused, Our boat has what you folks are calling a 'Wet Head' I guess, as the two, commode and shower share the same space. Our walls are formica, after a shower, a simple wipe down of the walls no more than a minute one would suppose, and check to see that the t/paper remained dry which is the case due to location. No big deal on the
'Slo~Belle', in fact another attribute to our boat when space utilization is in play.
Wifey B: Wet heads work fine for many but given a choice, most would choose dry. I choose separate shower and must be sized for two.
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A dedicated shower stall requires less wiping down of various surfaces such as the toilet as well as cleaning-solution containers handily kept aside a "dry" toilet.
Well Woopie Do!!
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Old 12-06-2017, 09:39 PM   #93
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Well Woopie Do!!
Wifey B: Whoopie Do Do might be more like it. A wet shower makes it very difficult for one person to use a toilet while another showers.
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Wifey B: Whoopie Do Do might be more like it. A wet shower makes it very difficult for one person to use a toilet while another showers.
Yal I sort of snickered at Markpiece's objection to a smigen of physical labor, yet with a smile yet on my face reading you, the immediate thought is " what are the odds?"

Anyway guys, I am fortunate to have escaped the level of civilization allowing me to either piss over the side, or use the deck bucket and dump it over the side or wait til the head being used as a shower stall is free. small things, that are accomplished without a huge amount of thought.

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Old 12-06-2017, 10:54 PM   #95
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You can check out the revamped now Helmsman/camano31 here
http://www.helmsmantrawlers.com/31-camano/
They have address many of the complaints/issues
Galley is now up
Leaving room for separate shower stall
And a bunch of other changes.
But no side doors.....but keeps boat dry ,
but this is a 27' lwl boat ! 28' OD
So for the size it's a lot of boat. I can't justify buying new but this would be on a short list....
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Old 12-07-2017, 10:50 AM   #96
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Seriously, all snide remarks aside, the Helmsman is an outstanding example of space use. In all regards, given the funding, it would be this or a 37 Lord Nelson.
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Seriously, all snide remarks aside, the Helmsman is an outstanding example of space use. In all regards, given the funding, it would be this or a 37 Lord Nelson.
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Here's your opportunity for a Lord Nelson tug.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dumas-1225-...YAAOSwhDBZ5ziY

This next is a bit more expensive.

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1983...s#.WilzSLaZMWo
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Al.... I agree...
While a separate shower is nice, it too requires being “wiped down” to look good.
My southern sailboat has a wet head and it’s not a big deal.
I remember wet heads being total luxury after sun heated shower bags in the cockpit...
I’m glad I have the shower...but a larger storage compartment in that space wouldn’t have been a deal breaker for me.
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Here's your opportunity for a Lord Nelson tug.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dumas-1225-...YAAOSwhDBZ5ziY

This next is a bit more expensive.

1983 Lord Nelson Victory Tug Power Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
O 'Lordy" (Pun) were that on the West Coast, there is one for 109,000 in Seattle area, and so darn tempted, however, at age 80 and a current 'Perfect' boat in hand, I have to face reality choosing the model over the actual!!
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O 'Lordy" (Pun) were that on the West Coast, there is one for 109,000 in Seattle area, and so darn tempted, however, at age 80 and a current 'Perfect' boat in hand, I have to face reality choosing the model over the actual!!
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That is not a model. It is a 'slightly smaller in size LN. Some assembly required.

Yup, anyone that proclaims, 'growing old is fun', has never grown old.
I will be coming up on 75. Good to see you still doing the boating dance.

Interestedly, there isn't really much to LN tug. Simplicity at its finest.
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