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Old 12-08-2022, 01:56 PM   #1141
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If everything is winterized, I wouldn't worry about blocking the vents. I'd only care about the engine room getting cold if there were un-winterized systems down there.
Thank you. I probably wasnít clear. That is why I am asking the question. There is a point on the spring here where we should be out of deep freezes but they can still occur.
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Old 12-08-2022, 02:01 PM   #1142
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I use 2 pillows in vinyl pillow cases. Stuff them in to the engine room side holes.

Put a note on the ignition to remove pillows before starting engine.

Makes a dramatic difference in engine room temp.

We only do this in the Fall and Spring, when in water and still cold. Everything is allowed to breathe over the winter on the hard.
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Old 12-08-2022, 02:06 PM   #1143
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Ok. Another question. For those who winterize their Helmsman, what do you use(if anything) to block the flow of air through the engine vents? To be clear, the same thing could go to limit the cold air flowing through the bilge when the boat is sitting in port during the winter and it gets below freezing.
Some of us up here in Port Ludlow put a small electric heater in the engine compartment. Even though the salt water in the marina doesn't get below freezing, the heater helps keep the below deck space just a bit warmer.
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Old 12-08-2022, 02:08 PM   #1144
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I use 2 pillows in vinyl pillow cases. Stuff them in to the engine room side holes.

Put a note on the ignition to remove pillows before starting engine.

Makes a dramatic difference in engine room temp.

We only do this in the Fall and Spring, when in water and still cold. Everything is allowed to breathe over the winter on the hard.
Makes sense. I will need to balance that and humidity.
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Old 12-08-2022, 02:10 PM   #1145
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Some of us up here in Port Ludlow put a small electric heater in the engine compartment. Even though the salt water in the marina doesn't get below freezing, the heater helps keep the below deck space just a bit warmer.
I had an engine room heater that worked well on my previous boat. It also had covers that snapped to the exterior vent openings which was handy.
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Old 12-08-2022, 02:17 PM   #1146
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Ok. Another question. For those who winterize their Helmsman, what do you use(if anything) to block the flow of air through the engine vents?
We have seen a Helmsman 38E in our marina with sheets of plastic film over the vent openings. They cling to the gelcoat and are easily removed and stored.
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Old 12-08-2022, 02:22 PM   #1147
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We have seen a Helmsman 38E in our marina with sheets of plastic film over the vent openings. They cling to the gelcoat and are easily removed and stored.
We cruised during the winter months in our 38E so no real need to winterize. During the few days moored in the marina we ran the dehumidifier. Looking at the renders for the 46, there are no vents to be seen amidships. Maybe need to ask Scott and Van about that.
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Old 12-08-2022, 03:04 PM   #1148
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We cruised during the winter months in our 38E so no real need to winterize. During the few days moored in the marina we ran the dehumidifier. Looking at the renders for the 46, there are no vents to be seen amidships. Maybe need to ask Scott and Van about that.
I believe the reason you donít see vents is that the vents are up higher in the boat. I think that is one of the requirements for a boat to have the ďAĒ ocean rating.
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I believe the reason you donít see vents is that the vents are up higher in the boat. I think that is one of the requirements for a boat to have the ďAĒ ocean rating.
Yes, that makes sense. Thanks
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Old 12-08-2022, 04:20 PM   #1150
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We are in an enclosed unheated dome that has circulating fans. They moved the air around to help reduce moisture and hopefully no mold. We don't cover the engine vents as we want to have some air circulating within. Been doing this for 6 years and no issues.
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Old 12-14-2022, 03:13 PM   #1151
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The Travels of Alba Bella

It's been a while since we have updated the continuing saga of our new Helmsman Trawlers 38E being "switched at berth" in Shanghai. On Monday, Alba Bella was offloaded in Miami and is now docked in Dania Beach, Florida awaiting her next move. We had a very reassuring conversation with Scott yesterday about how she will be cared for until she can find transportation back to the west coast where she belongs. Helmsman Trawlers is doing a yeoman job of righting this unfortunate situation which was not at all their fault. We're obviously disappointed but very grateful to be dealing with a company of great integrity and responsiveness to its clients.

Isn't she lovely?


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It's been a while since we have updated the continuing saga of our new Helmsman Trawlers 38E being "switched at berth" in Shanghai. On Monday, Alba Bella was offloaded in Miami and is now docked in Dania Beach, Florida awaiting her next move. We had a very reassuring conversation with Scott yesterday about how she will be cared for until she can find transportation back to the west coast where she belongs. Helmsman Trawlers is doing a yeoman job of righting this unfortunate situation which was not at all their fault. We're obviously disappointed but very grateful to be dealing with a company of great integrity and responsiveness to its clients.

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Yes, she certainly is!! Scott and Van will come through for you on getting her up to Seattle.
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Old 12-14-2022, 03:23 PM   #1153
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Seems like you've been presented with the opportunity to do some Florida boating before you start your PNW adventures. Have them schedule a cargo ship in March or April and you will still be salmon fishing next summer.

I strongly recommend that, if you can pull it off, get down there and enjoy the warm weather. Shake it down and head to the Bahamas for at least a few weeks. There will be lots of time to cruise the PNW once it gets there. Now you have the chance to do both with someone else paying the shipping costs.

We did almost exactly that and we would do it again in a heartbeat. Some of the greatest cruising grounds anywhere.


Beautiful boat, btw.
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Old 12-14-2022, 05:10 PM   #1154
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Seems like you've been presented with the opportunity to do some Florida boating before you start your PNW adventures. Have them schedule a cargo ship in March or April and you will still be salmon fishing next summer.
With snow and temperatures in the teens forecast for next week, that is an appealing thought. The logistics make it impractical. Our electronics are in Seattle, our dinghy is in the garage and we have a roomful of stuff to load aboard. Technically, it isnít our boat until we take delivery in Seattle.

Weíre making a map of all the places she has traveled. So far, the includes two oceans, passing through the Panama Canal and stops in Korea and four U.S. ports.
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Did I understand correctly that the other wayward boat was trucked across country? Is that how yours will get back to Seattle?
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The boat that was incorrectly shipped to Seattle is on its way to Mississippi by truck. It will be delivered much closer to where the buyer, Helmsman on TF, lives in Tennessee. He was looking at a 1,500 mile shakedown cruise from Miami. Ours will come back by ship when one is available.

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Did I understand correctly that the other wayward boat was trucked across country? Is that how yours will get back to Seattle?
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Doug, I am in absolute tears for you. What a beauty.
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Old 12-14-2022, 10:47 PM   #1158
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Well, she sure looks sweet.
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Old 12-15-2022, 12:47 AM   #1159
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THAT is a gorgeous boat. Drop dead gorgeous. We look forward to seeing you on the water this spring. This will all work out, we are sure, and it will be a conversation starter from here to Ketchikan for years to come. Letís all do a Helmsman rendezvous in Sitka in 2024.

Jeff and Barbara, Helmsman huggers

Ps: after a 13 hour drive (ugh) we, including the dogs, are back on the boat this evening to prepare for the all-important holiday lighting competition at Elliott Bay Marina tomorrow. When we moved to D-dock we were unaware of how seriously people take this, especially because the upstarts on E dock stole the crown last year. BTW, decorating inside the pilot house with white lights and IKEA stars looks great from the dock. It lights up all the great teak and is very tasteful (instead of blow up dinosaurs and other nonsense). The flybridge is easy if you have an AC outlet. But we stinkpots cannot hold a candle, much less lights, to the ability of our friends with sticks* who can run lights up the halyard.

*sticks because, at least in the PNW, masts appear to serve no other purpose based on the number of days all boats are motoring.
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Old 12-15-2022, 03:45 AM   #1160
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It's been a while since we have updated the continuing saga of our new Helmsman Trawlers 38E being "switched at berth" in Shanghai. On Monday, Alba Bella was offloaded in Miami and is now docked in Dania Beach, Florida awaiting her next move. We had a very reassuring conversation with Scott yesterday about how she will be cared for until she can find transportation back to the west coast where she belongs. Helmsman Trawlers is doing a yeoman job of righting this unfortunate situation which was not at all their fault. We're obviously disappointed but very grateful to be dealing with a company of great integrity and responsiveness to its clients.

Isn't she lovely?


That hull color really pops. Really good looking boat!
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