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07-14-2022, 08:28 AM
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#801
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City: Chattanooga
Vessel Model: Helmsman Trawler 38E
Join Date: Oct 2020
Posts: 851
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Well, the boat is progressing with the finish on the interior moving along. As most folks know, the progress on all boat builds has been slowed with the supply chain issues, so we now expect that the boat will arrive later in the year. Here are some snapshots of the boat as of a week ago or so. The finishes are beginning to take on the well known quality of the Helmsman products!
One of the areas we needed to decide on a couple of months ago was the AC electrical capacity on the boat. We settled on the two 30 amp feeds, which is standard, as opposed to a 50 amp feed. That will provide 7,200 watts of power as opposed to the 12,000 watts a 50 amp would provide. With no 220 volt appliances, we went with the 30 amp in order to get the two Victron shore power isolators, which is also standard. This will provide some protection from the trips people are experiencing due to the upgrades to elci breakers at pedestals.
While there are 50 amp isolators available, they are much heavier and bulkier. I had the same setup on a previous boat, and it wasn't much of an issue. Power management is always a variable on a boat.
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07-14-2022, 08:46 AM
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#802
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Guru
City: New England
Join Date: May 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Helmsman
Well, the boat is progressing with the finish on the interior moving along. As most folks know, the progress on all boat builds has been slowed with the supply chain issues, so we now expect that the boat will arrive later in the year. Here are some snapshots of the boat as of a week ago or so. The finishes are beginning to take on the well known quality of the Helmsman products!
One of the areas we needed to decide on a couple of months ago was the AC electrical capacity on the boat. We settled on the two 30 amp feeds, which is standard, as opposed to a 50 amp feed. That will provide 7,200 watts of power as opposed to the 12,000 watts a 50 amp would provide. With no 220 volt appliances, we went with the 30 amp in order to get the two Victron shore power isolators, which is also standard. This will provide some protection from the trips people are experiencing due to the upgrades to elci breakers at pedestals.
While there are 50 amp isolators available, they are much heavier and bulkier. I had the same setup on a previous boat, and it wasn't much of an issue. Power management is always a variable on a boat.
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Is that hull color 'Kingston Grey'?
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07-14-2022, 09:20 AM
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#803
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Veteran Member
City: Roy
Vessel Name: Hold Fast
Vessel Model: Ranger Tug R29CB
Join Date: May 2022
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We toured the boat shown in the video and it sealed the deal for us. It is beautiful and we get to add our own personal touch. I added the extra house batteries and am working towards a 1kw solar set. It will be here in late May.
We decided to skip the Seakeeper after talking to Scott about the boat and where the majority of our boating will be. We can add it later if needed. Easy install.
And my wife selected a light blue stripe to make it pop.
Can’t wait
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07-14-2022, 04:02 PM
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#804
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Guru
City: Chattanooga
Vessel Model: Helmsman Trawler 38E
Join Date: Oct 2020
Posts: 851
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Originally Posted by Nick14
Is that hull color 'Kingston Grey'?
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Sure is, Nick.
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07-14-2022, 04:04 PM
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#805
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Guru
City: Chattanooga
Vessel Model: Helmsman Trawler 38E
Join Date: Oct 2020
Posts: 851
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NSM
We toured the boat shown in the video and it sealed the deal for us. It is beautiful and we get to add our own personal touch. I added the extra house batteries and am working towards a 1kw solar set. It will be here in late May.
We decided to skip the Seakeeper after talking to Scott about the boat and where the majority of our boating will be. We can add it later if needed. Easy install.
And my wife selected a light blue stripe to make it pop.
Can’t wait
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Congratulations! Exciting times! I think the stripe looks great, too. Are you getting a 43 or 38?
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07-15-2022, 08:03 AM
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#806
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Guru
City: New England
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 520
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Originally Posted by Helmsman
Sure is, Nick.
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Thank you! It looks great!!
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07-15-2022, 08:58 AM
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#807
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Veteran Member
City: Roy
Vessel Name: Hold Fast
Vessel Model: Ranger Tug R29CB
Join Date: May 2022
Posts: 29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Helmsman
Congratulations! Exciting times! I think the stripe looks great, too. Are you getting a 43 or 38?
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The 43. It ticks all the boxes
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07-15-2022, 09:01 AM
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#808
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Guru
City: Chattanooga
Vessel Model: Helmsman Trawler 38E
Join Date: Oct 2020
Posts: 851
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NSM
The 43. It ticks all the boxes
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I really like the profile of the 43. The hull is about a foot higher, I think, than the 38. I think you will be really happy with it. Are you staying with the two stateroom layout or altering the second stateroom to another use?
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07-15-2022, 10:27 AM
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#809
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Veteran Member
City: Roy
Vessel Name: Hold Fast
Vessel Model: Ranger Tug R29CB
Join Date: May 2022
Posts: 29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Helmsman
I really like the profile of the 43. The hull is about a foot higher, I think, than the 38. I think you will be really happy with it. Are you staying with the two stateroom layout or altering the second stateroom to another use?
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We’ll keep the stateroom. That’s one of our ticked boxes. I feel bad for Roger and Scott. I pester them daily with ideas. 😃
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07-15-2022, 10:42 AM
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#810
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Guru
City: Chattanooga
Vessel Model: Helmsman Trawler 38E
Join Date: Oct 2020
Posts: 851
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NSM
We’ll keep the stateroom. That’s one of our ticked boxes. I feel bad for Roger and Scott. I pester them daily with ideas.
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Helmsman43, a poster on this forum, and a good friend of mine, eliminated the second state room in lieu of the head opening into his state room, and I think a slightly larger master. He is having a W/D put into the area where a portion of the second bed room was.
Just another example of the ability to customize the interior with a Helmsman! When you have time, take us through the options you have decided on.
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07-16-2022, 11:04 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Port Townsend, WA
Vessel Name: Hull No. 56 TBA
Vessel Model: Helmsman 38e
Join Date: Oct 2021
Posts: 62
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NSM
... working towards a 1kw solar set...
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NSM how are you thinking of getting 1kw of solar on your boat? How many panels and how might you arrange them?
We are looking at 3 x 225w panels on the pilot house but haven't come up with how to add more.
Rick
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07-17-2022, 12:14 AM
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Veteran Member
City: Roy
Vessel Name: Hold Fast
Vessel Model: Ranger Tug R29CB
Join Date: May 2022
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nancy and Rick
NSM how are you thinking of getting 1kw of solar on your boat? How many panels and how might you arrange them?
We are looking at 3 x 225w panels on the pilot house but haven't come up with how to add more.
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I have a 225 panel on my ranger tug and it’s not that big. I asked them to check into three larger panels. I haven’t measured yet but I suspect a 300 or 350 watt panel is available that will fit the space. Haven’t solved it yet but I think we’ll get close.
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07-18-2022, 12:48 AM
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Senior Member
City: Sequim
Vessel Name: M/V Waterhorse
Vessel Model: Awaiting a Helmsman 38E, Hull#52
Join Date: Jul 2021
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Helmsman
Well, the boat is progressing with the finish on the interior moving along. As most folks know, the progress on all boat builds has been slowed with the supply chain issues, so we now expect that the boat will arrive later in the year. Here are some snapshots of the boat as of a week ago or so. The finishes are beginning to take on the well known quality of the Helmsman products!
One of the areas we needed to decide on a couple of months ago was the AC electrical capacity on the boat. We settled on the two 30 amp feeds, which is standard, as opposed to a 50 amp feed. That will provide 7,200 watts of power as opposed to the 12,000 watts a 50 amp would provide. With no 220 volt appliances, we went with the 30 amp in order to get the two Victron shore power isolators, which is also standard. This will provide some protection from the trips people are experiencing due to the upgrades to elci breakers at pedestals.
While there are 50 amp isolators available, they are much heavier and bulkier. I had the same setup on a previous boat, and it wasn't much of an issue. Power management is always a variable on a boat.
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Beautiful! Thank you for sharing can’t wait to see ours at that stage!
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07-18-2022, 07:22 AM
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#814
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Guru
City: Chattanooga
Vessel Model: Helmsman Trawler 38E
Join Date: Oct 2020
Posts: 851
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick14
Thank you! It looks great!!
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Thank you, Nick. Scott suggested it when we were trying to decide. We really like it. The lighter gray should hold up well against the sun.
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07-18-2022, 09:01 AM
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#815
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Guru
City: New England
Join Date: May 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Helmsman
Thank you, Nick. Scott suggested it when we were trying to decide. We really like it. The lighter gray should hold up well against the sun.
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We went back and forth between Kingston Grey and Pastel Blue. It's very hard to pick a color for a boat just from tiny little pictures or color samples on the internet. An image on a screen can't capture what it really looks like in person.
We went with the Pastel Blue, though still think the Kingston Grey will, as you said, hold up better against the sun. Wish we could have seen boats in those colors in person.
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07-18-2022, 09:40 AM
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City: Chattanooga
Vessel Model: Helmsman Trawler 38E
Join Date: Oct 2020
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick14
We went back and forth between Kingston Grey and Pastel Blue. It's very hard to pick a color for a boat just from tiny little pictures or color samples on the internet. An image on a screen can't capture what it really looks like in person.
We went with the Pastel Blue, though still think the Kingston Grey will, as you said, hold up better against the sun. Wish we could have seen boats in those colors in person.
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I really like the pastel blue. If I were considering a decision today, I think I would do the stripe like the 43 in the boat test video. It just seems to really set it off. But, we are happy with what we went with.
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07-18-2022, 11:06 AM
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Guru
City: Stratford, CT
Vessel Name: Blue Moon
Vessel Model: Mainship Pilot 355
Join Date: Jan 2019
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Grey will be great camoflage in the fog. I remember about 30 years ago, grey became popular with some sailboat manufacturers. Now when I see one they look very dated. Dark colors are harder to maintain, but may increase resale 10 years from now. Nobody knows for sure, just an opinion.
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07-18-2022, 12:07 PM
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#818
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Guru
City: Chattanooga
Vessel Model: Helmsman Trawler 38E
Join Date: Oct 2020
Posts: 851
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Quote:
Originally Posted by backinblue
Grey will be great camoflage in the fog. I remember about 30 years ago, grey became popular with some sailboat manufacturers. Now when I see one they look very dated. Dark colors are harder to maintain, but may increase resale 10 years from now. Nobody knows for sure, just an opinion.
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The deck and superstructure is white.
One of the caveats about darker colors is that gel coats are much tougher to maintain. I have that problem on a run about we own. Our experience with that boat has caused us to steer away from darker colors on boats.
I suppose it is an eye if the beholder thing.
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07-18-2022, 07:50 PM
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#819
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Guru
City: New England
Join Date: May 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Helmsman
The deck and superstructure is white.
One of the caveats about darker colors is that gel coats are much tougher to maintain. I have that problem on a run about we own. Our experience with that boat has caused us to steer away from darker colors on boats.
I suppose it is an eye if the beholder thing.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by backinblue
Grey will be great camoflage in the fog. I remember about 30 years ago, grey became popular with some sailboat manufacturers. Now when I see one they look very dated. Dark colors are harder to maintain, but may increase resale 10 years from now. Nobody knows for sure, just an opinion.
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I love the look of classic Navy Blue or Forest Green for a hull. We've owned several of both. I've experienced first-hand just how fast they fade and need to be painted.
Despite being beyond obsessive-compulsive, and waxing the hull 3 or 4 times a year (yes, every other month), I've never been able to get more than 4 years out of a dark gelcoat hull before it faded to the point that I thought it needed to be painted (or a deep compounding that was only a very temporary band-aid).
Maybe others are luckier than I've been, or live in cloudy climates (like the PNW) where a dark hull might last longer. The only way I could imagine a dark hull lasting 10 years was if it was painted at some point along the way. The cost of a good paint job might outweigh any potential increase in resale value.
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07-19-2022, 05:41 AM
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#820
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Guru
City: Stratford, CT
Vessel Name: Blue Moon
Vessel Model: Mainship Pilot 355
Join Date: Jan 2019
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You bring up a good point about paint. Seems like most dark hulls today are painted not gelcoat. Does Helmsman not paint because of the added cost or is it an option?
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