Benthic2
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How does it benefit Nordhavn ?? It makes their boats more expensive but they don't get to keep the price increase !
Tariffs on Chinese built boats?
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How does it benefit Nordhavn ?? It makes their boats more expensive but they don't get to keep the price increase !
Little dougie
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Lol, there are a lot of boats built in the US. I'm sure you can find something that fits your needs. You just have to look. Don't settle for less, unless you can't afford an American built boat. Even if it is an older boat it's still better than supporting china
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Purchased my Chines-built (American-owned company) boat a decade ago. The only one with strong railings, keel-protected propeller and rudder, and 180-degree decks, in the desired boat size.
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Does Halvorsen/IG exist as a builder anymore? Not here.
Of course it`s political, but not in a "Party" sense. There is a cold war. Isn`t that a factor in choosing build location?
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There are not very many American built trawlers. My boat was built in Taiwan 33 years ago. Many many years ago I lost my job because of offshoring work, please don’t preach to me about buy American. I do when it makes sense to do so. I wish I could do it for everything I buy, but get a grip on reality, it cannot be done.
jrbauerjr
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Don’t want to start a flame war. But 20 some years ago I was involved in a capital project building a thousand new railcars. One of the criteria for this project was wringing excess weight to increase payload. One of the heaviest components had been designed back in the 1920’s and our engineers came up with a clean sheet design. We visited all the American suppliers and were told that if wasn’t in the catalog we’re not interested. Price was not the object but the Chinese foundries were more than happy to cast to our specs.
I often feel that a lot of our wounds are self inflicted. I recall a conversation I had with the late Chip Shea who at that time was the VP Marketing at Mainship why only the Nantucket 34’s had diesels as standard power. His answer was that the cost analysts wanted 100% markup on powertrains and the market would not support it in midsized boats.
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I often feel that a lot of our wounds are self inflicted. I recall a conversation I had with the late Chip Shea who at that time was the VP Marketing at Mainship why only the Nantucket 34’s had diesels as standard power. His answer was that the cost analysts wanted 100% markup on powertrains and the market would not support it in midsized boats.
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stubones99
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Chinese tariffs
I saw something that said that the majority of the tariffs on Chinese wares were things that we never purchased. Things like oil we imported from China, which we don't. According to what I read (on the Internet, so it must be true :O ) was most of the tariffs were simply blustery comments that sounded bad but in reality affected nobody.
I saw something that said that the majority of the tariffs on Chinese wares were things that we never purchased. Things like oil we imported from China, which we don't. According to what I read (on the Internet, so it must be true :O ) was most of the tariffs were simply blustery comments that sounded bad but in reality affected nobody.
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One American built boat I can recommend it the American Tug. I have a 34/36 but maybe you would be more comfortable with a 41/43.
Look at the site for the layout diagrams, if the layout will satisfy you, start a search and visiting. Finding a used AT is a bit difficult which should suggest, people are happy.
Remember, you may want to modify the interior of any boat to make the boat "yours".
Look at the site for the layout diagrams, if the layout will satisfy you, start a search and visiting. Finding a used AT is a bit difficult which should suggest, people are happy.
Remember, you may want to modify the interior of any boat to make the boat "yours".
catalinajack
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You are correct in the absolute sense. However, any manufacturing country can subsidize the product this lowering the invoice price to the importer which, in effect, pays the tariff.
catalinajack
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Bills do not become law until signed by the president. No signature, no tax unless a veto were to be overridden. So, the buck stopped at Bush's desk. He could have stopped it but didn't.
catalinajack
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Yes, buy American cars. Americans do build cars every bit as good (today) as anything foreign-built.
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And we do drive American cars...
First, there was no additional tariff added to boats from China. The current tariff is 1.5% if imported into US.
Second, there are plenty of boats built in China, some in Taiwan, some in Malaysia. The Chinese builders sales in the US remain good although hurt some by the pandemic. Horizon, Cheoy Lee, Outer Reef are doing well as are others.
Second, there are plenty of boats built in China, some in Taiwan, some in Malaysia. The Chinese builders sales in the US remain good although hurt some by the pandemic. Horizon, Cheoy Lee, Outer Reef are doing well as are others.
Nomad Willy
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TARRIF’s are ALWAYS bad for everybody.
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taxes and tariffs are always "pass through".
increase taxes and tariffs must be absorbed by the manufactures or the seller especially if the mark-up and or profit of the final produce is not that great.
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increase taxes and tariffs must be absorbed by the manufactures or the seller especially if the mark-up and or profit of the final produce is not that great.
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Tariffs were put in place to try to level the playing field. When China dumps product in the USA to eliminate competition, it often increases unemployment or reduces better paying blue collar jobs. Loss of good paying blue collar jobs is bad for the overall economy.
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Yes, trickle dow unemployment (my n key died.)
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Wifey, it was a joke. Like the Monty Python sketch about the man unable to pronounce the letter "c" and who observes that makes him a silly "bunt".Wifey B: Then how did you type unemployment without an n key?
Regarding a self opinionated sports journalist here. Someone claimed every key on his keyboard failed, except the letter "I", and he didn`t notice for months.
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It is the truth, no n key. I either rely on spell check or I have restarted to putting the n in the buffer and calling up when needed.
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Any idea of taxes/duty with importing a Taiwan built trawler from Spain or Portugal into the US?
I understand sales tax, but apparently I'm not searching using the correct keywords as I'm not getting any info . . .
I understand sales tax, but apparently I'm not searching using the correct keywords as I'm not getting any info . . .
Tariff/duty is 1.5%. As to sales/use tax, it is totally dependent on the state and how long you've owned it.
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Rich wilmer
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If ya cant afford it dont buy it,they are called boats not investments! BRING ON ANOTHER THOUSAND
