OldDan1943
Guru
- Joined
- Oct 2, 2017
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- Vessel Name
- Kinja
- Vessel Make
- American Tug 34 #116 2008
Had the boat been reported stolen.
Had the boat been reported stolen.
In what way do I have any liability for other peoples boats? If you ask me it would just encourage people to abandon their boats, they know someone else will pay to have it disposed of.
"Once they in act a fee or tax, even if its low, they will never get rid of it and it will go up"Once the camel's nose is under the edge of the tent, it is difficult to keep the camel out of the tent.
$10 will increase
"Once they in act a fee or tax, even if its low, they will never get rid of it and it will go up"
Are we not still paying some temporary tax from some war in the 1800's?
But you guys are arguing that there should be no publicly funded anything because if you give them a nickle, they will want a dime. So we should not have any publicly funded anything?
Also, in this more specific instance, you are saying that all the derelict boats should be left in place? Is that really what you want? And if you do want them to be removed, how will it be funded? Don't say the owners who left the boat behind in the first place because that clearly isn't going to happen.
Part of the problem is that the tax is only on boaters, largely responsible boat owners who would never dump a vessel. If it's to benefit everyone, tax everyone. It's like the tax for abandoned car removal, it only taxes responsible car owners to address the problem.
My fix would be to shift the responsibility of the seller to register the buyer, so the new owner would be responsible if anything winds up abandoned. Is that too easy to be considered?
RT hit the nail on the head...
I don't understand the insurance reference, as far as I know insurance doesn't cover recovery of an abandoned boat.
With abandoned cars, they are purchased with cash largely by people who have no intention to insure them as they are uninsurable due to their driving records. Irresponsible people doing irresponsible things, with no regard for their actions anyway.
That would require applying common sense.Part of the problem is that the tax is only on boaters, largely responsible boat owners who would never dump a vessel. If it's to benefit everyone, tax everyone. It's like the tax for abandoned car removal, it only taxes responsible car owners to address the problem.
My fix would be to shift the responsibility of the seller to register the buyer, so the new owner would be responsible if anything winds up abandoned. Is that too easy to be considered?
RT hit the nail on the head...
IF an owner of an abandoned boat can be found then the GOV can apply penalties the same as they do now, garnish income until debt paid.The whole issue of registrations not being updated is largely separate from the issue of abandoned boats. Not entirely, but plenty of boats get abandoned with properly transferred ownership. The owner is just nowhere to be found, or has no money or assets to address the abandoned boat.
Wouldn't mandatory insurance place the cost squarely in the lap of the now uninsured boat owner?
That would require applying common sense.
IF an owner of an abandoned boat can be found then the GOV can apply penalties the same as they do now, garnish income until debt paid.
Point well made was if title is changed by seller, buyer is now known and in Canada at least you get to pay purchase tax.
Is he asking for payment in I Tunes vouchers?Greetings,
Mr. OD. In Canada, we have the IRS equivalent Revenue Canada. They've obviously found me. I get calls every week from a rather stern agent demanding I pay monies owed to the government. I always counter with "Take it out of the tax refund you guys have owed me for last year." Evidently, different department....or the poor man just can't figure that one out...
They are considering accepting BitCoinIs he asking for payment in I Tunes vouchers?
Greetings,
Mr. OD. In Canada, we have the IRS equivalent Revenue Canada. They've obviously found me. I get calls every week from a rather stern agent demanding I pay monies owed to the government. I always counter with "Take it out of the tax refund you guys have owed me for last year." Evidently, different department....or the poor man just can't figure that one out.
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Otherwise known as CRA. A call came in and we put it on speaker phone. 5 people listening all thought it was for them as no names were given in the arrest warrant.
Good Grief! Aussie Parliamentarians (ex)Joe Hockey(was our US Ambassador), Peter Dutton (aka Mr. Potato Head) and Kevin Andrews(total prick,soon to be "ex",sits to the right of Genghis Khan).Greetings,
Mr. SV. Aw snap. I forgot they changed the name. Thanks. Must have been when I wasn't paying attention..
My fix would be to shift the responsibility of the seller to register the buyer, so the new owner would be responsible if anything winds up abandoned..
Think about it. Your record keeping must be flawless to be able to find a piece of paper 10 years later, thumb drives kept in safe place just in case.Interesting idea. As a seller, I'd want to be protected from the risk of the new owner never registering, then abandoning, the boat.
Then again, if I have a signed bill of sale, don't I already have that? If "they" come knocking on my door asking about a boat I previously owned, I'd just show them that.
Would selling through a broker absolve the seller of this responsibility?
I have no idea. I've never had anything like this happen. But now I'm wondering.