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Old 05-12-2017, 07:49 AM   #161
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Believe me they invested in lawyers to make sure they're just inside the letter of the law.

Consumer protection is not an area of government responsibility being strengthened these days.

And why would the FCC be involved?
I think he meant to say FTC...Federal Trade Commission.
Postal Service would be a good place to file a complaint as well.
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Not the uscg

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Yep, lots of these going around. Now we'll get into whether or not it's a scam, with people weighing in on both sides! Personally, I lump them in with people who prey on the elderly and steal their social security checks and what not, but what do I know?
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Old 02-27-2023, 01:34 PM   #164
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I got one of those too. I know we beat this topic to death, and I know some TF members think it's just a valid third party service provider, etc. That technically may be true, but it still smells borderline scammy to me. FINAL NOTICE. And they use a .us domain name instead of .com, and call themselves the National Documentation Portal as if they're a public agency. Their service may be legal, and heck, might even be helpful to those who can't do a really simple transaction online (I just did mine on the real site for $26). If they were truly above board however and didn't rely on giving people the impression they're an official agency, they'd look and smell and pass themselves off like any other regular, commercial business or service.
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The email and web addresses are .us but the USCG uses .mil

SSL is NOT secured or advanced. TLS has replaced SSL.

There is at least on company doing this sort of thing for magazine renewals.....

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You know if a real boat paperwork business would offer consolidated services that I actually found helpful, I wouldn't mind paying a premium. If I could dump the documentation renewal, the FCC/MMSI/DSC radio license renewal, the state registration renewal, and the dinghy state registration renewal on some company that would just handle it all for me, I'd probably be willing to pay double the actual agency fees so I never have to think about it again (other than sticking the stickers I suppose). Individually each of those transactions are not a huge time drain, but you add them all up, I wouldn't mind unloading them. Instead we just get businesses that try to give the impression they're public agencies, and just offer doc renewals at triple the agency price.
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Yep, lots of these going around. Now we'll get into whether or not it's a scam, with people weighing in on both sides! Personally, I lump them in with people who prey on the elderly and steal their social security checks and what not, but what do I know?
Agreed. Not a service of value as charged.
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Yea, I fell for one of these scammy doc renewals 7-8 years ago. Never again and I’ve made it my mission to alert as many people as possible
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You know if a real boat paperwork business would offer consolidated services that I actually found helpful, I wouldn't mind paying a premium. If I could dump the documentation renewal, the FCC/MMSI/DSC radio license renewal, the state registration renewal, and the dinghy state registration renewal on some company that would just handle it all for me, I'd probably be willing to pay double the actual agency fees so I never have to think about it again (other than sticking the stickers I suppose). Individually each of those transactions are not a huge time drain, but you add them all up, I wouldn't mind unloading them. Instead we just get businesses that try to give the impression they're public agencies, and just offer doc renewals at triple the agency price.
Agreed, but not at their pricing which “bundled” would likely be somewhere between $1500-$2000.
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Yep, lots of these going around. Now we'll get into whether or not it's a scam, with people weighing in on both sides! Personally, I lump them in with people who prey on the elderly and steal their social security checks and what not, but what do I know?
Tough to defend as a legitimate 3rd party service when the entire veneer is intended to deceive and obfuscate.

An example of a legit third party service are the firms thar research tax refunds and such that were never collected. They find the payee and offer to collect the money owed to them for a fee. Sure the person could do it themselves, but clearly they haven't. Found money for them.

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If the "service" was easier than going direct with the CG, then they could legitimately call it a service. But it isn't, it's maybe even a little harder. That's not "service".
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Again, if you don’t your documentation business on this web page:

https://cgmix.uscg.mil/psix/psixsearch.aspx

You are wasting time and money…
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Scruples ? Ethics? Morals ? Empathy for others ??

Don't see them much anymore! All that, along with "work-ethic". GONE!!!!

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What goes around USUALLY comes around.......Karma will get ya every time.
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READ THE FINE PRINT and then investigate!!

There should be laws! There should be consequences!

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Old 03-04-2023, 08:34 PM   #175
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...If I could dump the documentation renewal, the FCC/MMSI/DSC radio license renewal, the state registration renewal, and the dinghy state registration renewal on some company...
Which reminds me, my FCC license is due for renewal next year. Hard to believe I'll have owned this boat for 10 years come December.

At least no scammer has sent me a fake invoice for FCC renewal. Yet.
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Which reminds me, my FCC license is due for renewal next year. Hard to believe I'll have owned this boat for 10 years come December.

At least no scammer has sent me a fake invoice for FCC renewal. Yet.
What is your home address?
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Just ask the scammers. They all have it!
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yea, i fell for one of these scammy doc renewals 7-8 years ago. Never again and i’ve made it my mission to alert as many people as possible
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I get one every year, it serves to notify me that my documentation with Homeland Security will be in my mailbox soon. (or is it every two years now?)

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I get one every year, it serves to notify me that my documentation with Homeland Security will be in my mailbox soon. (or is it every two years now?)

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