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Old 04-05-2022, 06:29 AM   #141
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I wouldn't have wanted to put that last 50 gallons of. . . . whatever into my boat. Hopefully it was all clean fuel!
I agree, and perhaps the reason it was cheap is they haven't purchased new fuel in a few months.
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Old 04-05-2022, 08:37 AM   #142
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Personally try to not buy fuel the first or second day from delivery nor when close to empty. I usually ask by phone when last delivery occurred. Last boat had 4 fuels tanks. We filled at Blue water Hampton just before leaving on passage to BVI. One tank was empty and another half full before fill. The other two ~80%. In Sargasso Sea there was no wind so powered. Went through 6 racors with the tank that needed a complete fill. It didn’t seem to be clearing so stopped using it. The other 1/2 full tank to start took another 6 racors but cleared. After that experience have become totally anal about wanting to know when d fuel deliveries occur. Bluewater usually has excellent fuel and would have no reluctance to getting fuel there. The Salty Dawg left from there. Think with ~100boats filling up or topping off they were drawing from the bottom and things were stirred up. Up north from good yards think you can also get into trouble for similar reasons. So try to buy fuel mid week 2-3 days after a delivery. Found putting fuel in a clear glass or plastic container and looking at it can be misleading. Found baha filters of questionable help.
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Old 04-05-2022, 09:06 AM   #143
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Oil industry is extremely complex. I have worked for one of the integrated global majors since 2013, recently one of their upstream (exploration and extraction) business units but have done work in midstream and downstream (transportation, storage, and refining). An industry benchmark view of health and condition is rig count. See this graph (US rigs) from one of the industry watch groups - ramping up production takes time. The huge cliff-drop in pandemic corresponds to a period where oil hit -$37/bbl meanng producers had to pay to get rid of oil because all storage was full and there was no place to put it. It's easy to turn-off operations - you just cancel contracts. Ramping-up is a much, much different matter - think of it this way: my neighborhood has many older homes being razed for a new McMansion. Takes about 4-days to level a house. Takes a year and a half to build a new one. But as you can see production is ramping pretty quickly.

Most of the majors are profitable at around $35-$40 bbl, but they feather their wells - reducing or idling expensive ones when pricing is low.

This is normal business practice that we'd all do. Click image for larger version

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Old 04-05-2022, 11:03 AM   #144
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I wouldn't have wanted to put that last 50 gallons of. . . . whatever into my boat. Hopefully it was all clean fuel!
They have an above ground tank, and the pump is shutoff by a float switch. No worries, yet.

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Old 04-05-2022, 11:16 AM   #145
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I fill to my port tank and polish / transfer / use from starboard. Simply, I assume all fuel I buy is bad. Usually I'm pleasantly surprised. If you cruise, it would be foolish to assume otherwise. BTW, when was the last time a marina told you upfront that they have bad fuel. They very well may not know, so assume the worst and be prepared.

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Old 04-05-2022, 12:39 PM   #146
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Found putting fuel in a clear glass or plastic container and looking at it can be misleading..
But we've found using a test kit to be useful. Far better than timing the market.
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Old 04-06-2022, 09:51 AM   #147
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Once again not 100% but definitely better than just looking at it.
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Old 04-06-2022, 08:31 PM   #148
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Just fueled at Covich-Williams in Seattle. $4.25 per gallon for 1000 gal and paying by check. Thatís down about $.50 per gal since last week. Still expensive, but much better than over $5.
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Old 04-06-2022, 08:44 PM   #149
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We put 200 gallons of gas in the boat yesterday at $5.54 / gal. I didn't fill the tanks hoping that prices come down a bit (or we go somewhere with cheaper fuel) before we need more.
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Old 04-06-2022, 09:49 PM   #150
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Sunday 3/27 took 115,000 gallons of diesel in the tug...at $4.38/gallon. We ordered 160,000 gallons but the barge showed up 4.5 hrs late and we had to scoot... Glad I wasn't paying for it. We loaded 115,000 gallons in 3.5 hrs. Much faster than fuel docks.Usually 15k and hr at fuel dock
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Old 04-09-2022, 05:32 AM   #151
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Old 04-09-2022, 01:30 PM   #152
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Recent diesel rates:

Vero Beach Marina (FL) on 4/3/22: $5.43 / gallon ($5.08 + tax)

Fishermen's Village Marina (Punta Gorda, FL) on 4/8/22: $570.9 / gallon (incl tax)
Wifey B: $570.9 per gallon. Wow.
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Old 04-10-2022, 04:42 PM   #153
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Bought some diesel in Comox, British Columbia yesterday. $2.399 CAD a liter, so $7.22 USD a gallon. Gas was the same price. Discount kicks in at 500 liters which we were under so it was $2.399 for us.
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Old 04-10-2022, 05:49 PM   #154
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Sunday 3/27 took 115,000 gallons of diesel in the tug...at $4.38/gallon. We ordered 160,000 gallons but the barge showed up 4.5 hrs late and we had to scoot... Glad I wasn't paying for it. We loaded 115,000 gallons in 3.5 hrs. Much faster than fuel docks.Usually 15k and hr at fuel dock
Holy Smokes!!! I hope they wash your windsheild and checked your oil when you spend that much!!

What kind of discount do you get at that volume compared to the 75 gallon purchaser ? If you can't say that's fine...I get it.
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Holy Smokes!!! I hope they wash your windsheild and checked your oil when you spend that much!!

What kind of discount do you get at that volume compared to the 75 gallon purchaser ? If you can't say that's fine...I get it.
I'm not sure, the office sets it up. They watch the futures prices closely. They try to get 50 or 100,000 gallons at a time for on of the big boats and we fuel the smaller tugs.
I know it was 6 cents a gallon cheaper getting it bay barge than going to the terminal...
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Old 05-24-2022, 03:58 PM   #156
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$5.78 upper Chesapeake Bay, today
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Old 05-24-2022, 04:09 PM   #157
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Paid $5.57 before tax on Sunday or about $6 after tax in San Diego for >100 gallons.
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Bought some diesel in Comox, British Columbia yesterday. $2.399 CAD a liter, so $7.22 USD a gallon. Gas was the same price. Discount kicks in at 500 liters which we were under so it was $2.399 for us.
Same for me. I got the discount though. Whopping 0.03 cents a gallon discount. I took on 3,000 liters, though I did split the fueling in to two trips. The first was $2.19/liter.
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