Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 07-27-2020, 09:50 PM   #1
Veteran Member
 
City: ri
Country: United States
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 43
Looking at ST 44 2016 - 2019, good/bad/ugly...

Wondering if those with one of these could give some general impressions.

Coming from a sailing cat, can't do that anymore. But am looking for a boat that can faster than 8kts if needed. I would like something that if I want to do 50mi I can get there at lunch, not dinner. The ST44 hits that.

Q1. Would you buy this boat again? That says alot.
Q2. I had a Bene sailboat, and Lagoon, so I know the family. But I know nothing about their powerboats. I always thought that if you compared to the GM Chevy/Olds/Caddy , the Benes were the olds. Upscale, but not top of the line.
Q3. Anything I should be looking for in those years?
Q4. Anything I should know about in general?
Q5. Dealer is pushing the new 41, I like the galley placement better, but there are a few used boats in the 400hr range, which I assume is close to new like that are about 20% less than new. Does the 41 have anything else major in the running of the boat over the 44?

Thanks!
__________________
Advertisement

jbinbi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2020, 08:29 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
lipets's Avatar
 
City: FL
Country: USA
Vessel Model: Benneteau Swift 42
Join Date: Jun 2019
Posts: 356
Similar background, had a Bene 36.7 great sailboat a sister-ship won the Newport to Burmuda, the swift42 has much the same quality,


Don't spend $$ on new if U find the right boat used.
__________________

lipets is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2020, 09:30 PM   #3
Guru
 
City: Z
Country: USA
Vessel Model: Beneteau Swift Trawler 44
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 796
Quote:
Originally Posted by jbinbi View Post
Wondering if those with one of these could give some general impressions.

Coming from a sailing cat, can't do that anymore. But am looking for a boat that can faster than 8kts if needed. I would like something that if I want to do 50mi I can get there at lunch, not dinner. The ST44 hits that.

Q1. Would you buy this boat again? That says alot.
Q2. I had a Bene sailboat, and Lagoon, so I know the family. But I know nothing about their powerboats. I always thought that if you compared to the GM Chevy/Olds/Caddy , the Benes were the olds. Upscale, but not top of the line.
Q3. Anything I should be looking for in those years?
Q4. Anything I should know about in general?
Q5. Dealer is pushing the new 41, I like the galley placement better, but there are a few used boats in the 400hr range, which I assume is close to new like that are about 20% less than new. Does the 41 have anything else major in the running of the boat over the 44?

Thanks!
Spend some hours (or days) reading this forum and join the swift trawler group on facebook. Tons and tons of info from owners. I dont have the energy or time to summarize it all for you. I have probably fixed/tweaked/adjusted 100+ things on my ST44. Beneteau is not known for perfect or close to perfect boats...

Many of the issues carried over through each year, i dont think 2016-2019 is much (if any) different than prior model years. Luckily I purchased the boat when it was just turning two years old, the original buyer took the initial depreciation hit, and it was still under warranty, so most of the repairs have been done at Beneteau's expense. I bonded with a few ST44 owners who knew their stuff and we all basically figured out every single issue, how to adjust, and fix, on our own boats.

I am thinking of moving up in size, so mine might be for sale soon, its currently near RI, but really was trying to enjoy the boat for a year or two since I spent so much time, energy, money, blood, and sweat.

I do not like the new styles. I dont know what Beneteau was thinking. Some are not functional with couch in way of door, poor seating layouts, etc. They really could've perfected the ST44 with a little effort.
mystery is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2020, 03:56 PM   #4
Veteran Member
 
City: Auckland
Country: New Zealand
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 39
Q1. Would you buy this boat again? That says alot.

Yes

Q2. I had a Bene sailboat, and Lagoon, so I know the family. But I know nothing about their powerboats. I always thought that if you compared to the GM Chevy/Olds/Caddy , the Benes were the olds. Upscale, but not top of the line.

They are good but not a Flemming 55

Q3. Anything I should be looking for in those years?

shafts! Engine wobble. Get an engineer to come on the sea trial.

Q4. Anything I should know about in general?

We've had a few problems with voids but all been fixed.

The 44 is a great boat for us, we live on it for 3+ months in the summer up in the Bay of Islands, New Zealand. A water maker and lithium batteries help with that. I have an RS Aero sailing dinghy on the roof so I also get my sailing fix.
KiwiClive is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2020, 05:17 PM   #5
Veteran Member
 
City: ri
Country: United States
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 43
Quote:
Originally Posted by mystery View Post
Spend some hours (or days) reading this forum and join the swift trawler group on facebook. Tons and tons of info from owners. I dont have the energy or time to summarize it all for you. I have probably fixed/tweaked/adjusted 100+ things on my ST44. Beneteau is not known for perfect or close to perfect boats...

Many of the issues carried over through each year, i dont think 2016-2019 is much (if any) different than prior model years. Luckily I purchased the boat when it was just turning two years old, the original buyer took the initial depreciation hit, and it was still under warranty, so most of the repairs have been done at Beneteau's expense. I bonded with a few ST44 owners who knew their stuff and we all basically figured out every single issue, how to adjust, and fix, on our own boats.

I am thinking of moving up in size, so mine might be for sale soon, its currently near RI, but really was trying to enjoy the boat for a year or two since I spent so much time, energy, money, blood, and sweat.

I do not like the new styles. I dont know what Beneteau was thinking. Some are not functional with couch in way of door, poor seating layouts, etc. They really could've perfected the ST44 with a little effort.
Thanks. Didn't know about the FB group. Will check it out. I keep my boat in RI. Also looking at Greenline.

Quote:
Originally Posted by KiwiClive View Post
Q1. Would you buy this boat again? That says alot.

Yes

Q2. I had a Bene sailboat, and Lagoon, so I know the family. But I know nothing about their powerboats. I always thought that if you compared to the GM Chevy/Olds/Caddy , the Benes were the olds. Upscale, but not top of the line.

They are good but not a Flemming 55

Q3. Anything I should be looking for in those years?

shafts! Engine wobble. Get an engineer to come on the sea trial.

Q4. Anything I should know about in general?

We've had a few problems with voids but all been fixed.

The 44 is a great boat for us, we live on it for 3+ months in the summer up in the Bay of Islands, New Zealand. A water maker and lithium batteries help with that. I have an RS Aero sailing dinghy on the roof so I also get my sailing fix.
Appreciate the detailed answers. Just looked up RS Aero. I had Laser #74, but that was I think also 73/74? Couldn't imagine sailing that now ;-)
jbinbi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2020, 01:42 PM   #6
Veteran Member
 
emilanderson's Avatar
 
City: Seattle
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Tusen Takk
Vessel Model: Beneteau Swift Trawler 44
Join Date: Jun 2019
Posts: 26
We have ST44 2014. Love it and would buy again and again. I know several ST owners have had battery or charging issues. Personally I think the exide batteries they use are garbage had one actually explode! My wife and I have been talking solar but there simply isn't a good place to mount them because we use our boom/mast for our dinghy a lot. Side rails are for paddle boards. Bow cushion is used by kids and dog. I am not putting them on canvas. Nice thing is lazarette is HUGE. I say get an eFoy and use that. We are planning that and a watermaker as our additions.
emilanderson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2020, 05:35 AM   #7
Guru
 
twistedtree's Avatar
 
City: Gloucester, MA
Country: USA
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 5,771
I have zero experience with Beneteau, but you might also consider Back Cove, or even Saber.
__________________
MVTanglewood.com
twistedtree is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2020, 06:56 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
City: SOMERS POINT, NJ
Vessel Name: SOJOURN
Vessel Model: SWIFT TRAWLER 44
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 167
We have had a ST34 and ST44 (5 years). The ST44 is a production boat that is above average. Yes, there are issues - but in terms of sea worthiness - terrific: fuel economy - 23 mph = 23 gph!!!!! Storage - terrific. We like the idea that the systems are SIMPLE not a lot of bells and whistles. And the fly bridge is a winner.
Good Luck
SOJOURN4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2020, 07:45 AM   #9
Senior Member
 
rclarke246's Avatar
 
City: Florida
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Lady Di
Vessel Model: 2012 Beneteau Swift Trawler 44
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 429
Quote:
Originally Posted by jbinbi View Post
Wondering if those with one of these could give some general impressions.

Coming from a sailing cat, can't do that anymore. But am looking for a boat that can faster than 8kts if needed. I would like something that if I want to do 50mi I can get there at lunch, not dinner. The ST44 hits that.

Q1. Would you buy this boat again? That says alot.
Q2. I had a Bene sailboat, and Lagoon, so I know the family. But I know nothing about their powerboats. I always thought that if you compared to the GM Chevy/Olds/Caddy , the Benes were the olds. Upscale, but not top of the line.
Q3. Anything I should be looking for in those years?
Q4. Anything I should know about in general?
Q5. Dealer is pushing the new 41, I like the galley placement better, but there are a few used boats in the 400hr range, which I assume is close to new like that are about 20% less than new. Does the 41 have anything else major in the running of the boat over the 44?

Thanks!
Q1: Bought our ST 44 new in 2012. YES
Q2: Volvos reliable but expensive parts
Q3: Around 2014 they redesigned the head / shower space. A good upgrade from my 2012 design.
Q4: NOT a "blue water" vessel. Perfect for inland or coastal cruising.
Q5: I don't know the 41.
I feel that this ST44 was and is a great value. Apparently they hold their value and there usually aren't many available for resale, which tells me owners' are keeping them, like me. Launching the Dinghy from the fly bridge is a pain. I actually sold my dinghy because it wasn't worth the effort.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	GOWPZl88SBeZMlZmv2GwZQ.jpg
Views:	12
Size:	146.5 KB
ID:	108060  
rclarke246 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2020, 10:04 AM   #10
Guru
 
City: Carefree, Arizona
Country: usa
Vessel Name: sunchaser V
Vessel Model: DeFever 48
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 8,837
Quote:
Originally Posted by twistedtree View Post
I have zero experience with Beneteau, but you might also consider Back Cove, or even Saber.
Good hint TT. The Back Cove 41 is well worth checking out. Good quality by a top notch Maine builder. The same company builds Sabre
sunchaser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2020, 10:39 AM   #11
Guru
 
Seevee's Avatar
 
City: st pete
Country: usa
Vessel Model: 400 Mainship
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 2,418
I'm following this thread with interest as I shopped for the ST for awhile, might still be on my radar.


Talked to owners, dealers etc., and there certainly is a good following and satisfied customers.



Agree that the build isn't perfect, but seems easily fixable. (Just like my Mainship that I have no regrets with). My goal was to just add some speed, however now thinking of adding some size, too.


Will follow.....
__________________
Seevee
Seevee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2020, 10:53 AM   #12
Veteran Member
 
City: ri
Country: United States
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 43
Quote:
Originally Posted by sunchaser View Post
Good hint TT. The Back Cove 41 is well worth checking out. Good quality by a top notch Maine builder. The same company builds Sabre
Thanks. Great quality boats. Very familiar with their quality. However, for the same size boat, about 200k more for 2-4 yr old used model. Breaks my budget

However, you get what you pay for. To use my car analogy, the Sabres are the Mercedes (or maybe higher), the Benes are Olds (maybe Chevy)
jbinbi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2020, 11:04 AM   #13
Veteran Member
 
emilanderson's Avatar
 
City: Seattle
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Tusen Takk
Vessel Model: Beneteau Swift Trawler 44
Join Date: Jun 2019
Posts: 26
Spent some time on a back cove, they are nice but IMO very expensive for what they are. I feel the ST is a wonderful value boat. I think what makes the ST line special is that it isn't a specialist. It is really great at a lot of things not perfect. Like it isn't super fuel efficient at 7kts like a krogan or nordhavn, but they can go 7kts at 3mpg and 23-27kts at about 1mpg! similar size trawlers might have more berths and more livable sq ft, but the ST's all have about 340 degrees of visibility from lower and upper helm. I could go on but it is all about trade offs. All boats have trade offs and For me and my family and dog it is near perfect combination for us.
__________________

emilanderson is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:35 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2006 - 2012
×