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Old 05-28-2020, 11:39 PM   #1
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Westerbeke - you have to be kidding

On our last weekend away our generator oil pressure guage started to flicker and then gave up entirely, sitting on zero. Bit of a worry (as they say) but the engine did not cut out - it has a cut out switch if the oil pressure drops to zero (so I am told) which reassured me that it wasn`t anything catastrophic but I was wary of using it. Luckily this was on the last day so not really an convenience. I figured that the oil pressure sender unit was cactus.

Easy peasy fix, pop into our local Westerbeke shop and pick up another sender unit. I was annoyed though as this was my second in three years.

So, in I went, let them know I was peeved about a 3 year old sender unit going US and asked for another. Guy that served me couldn`t have given a rats a$#e about the 3 years and happily charged me $134 for a new one. All nicely boxed up, but the item has no markings, brand, model no etc.

When I got home, just to make myself feel worse, I checked on ebay - $30 seems to be the average for one that appears identical.

One thing I have learnt though is that the engine is a Mitsubish K3E or K4E so that's where the oil filter will come from, even though it won`t be red. My files tell me that the last oil filter from Westerbeke cost $28!!!
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Old 05-29-2020, 02:19 AM   #2
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I think I had the K4. I thought it was great. Got my parts from tractor stores. Saved a ton.
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Old 05-29-2020, 06:37 AM   #3
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Yes, Westerbeke is sure proud of their parts.
Last year I had to buy a new coolant circulation pump for my old 4.4kw.
$400 but it was in stock and I had it the next day.
It had a show quality paint job.
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How do you determine the actual engine manufacturer for Westerbeke generators?

FYI, I had a bad experience buying an eBay fuel shutoff solenoid that was supposed to fit, but didn't. Fortunately the seller took it back.
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Yes the parts they don’t make themselves have a big markup. But they do paint the nicely. Do some internet research to determine what the non marinized part of the unit is. Then just do a few searches when looking for parts. Best thing is to get a parts catalog for that nonmarinized unit. For a boatyard, it’s just easier to order from Westerbeke. Remember that their time usually runs at 100 $ an hour. But if your time is “free” you can save by working Google search.
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How do you determine the actual engine manufacturer for Westerbeke generators?

FYI, I had a bad experience buying an eBay fuel shutoff solenoid that was supposed to fit, but didn't. Fortunately the seller took it back.
I was lucky - in the pile of receipts that I inherited when we bought the boat was one for some work on the generator and it had Mitsubishi K3E and K4E scribbled on a job card. I googled that motor and sure enough the pictures that came up were exactly the same as our Westerbeke (except it was dark grey). It even shows a number moulded into the block which I shall check next time I`m at the boat.
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Which generator do you have? We've got a Westerbeke WMD 6.0 - 6 kw - with a leaking raw water pump. Hoping to find a cheaper alternative than Westerbeke.
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Depco pumps in Florida has an aftermarket pump...but it's not wayyyyyy cheaper.
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I heard Westerbeke hired Volvo to teach them about merchandise markup.

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I heard Westerbeke hired Volvo to teach them about merchandise markup.

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Might have been the other way around LOL
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If you want a laugh, look up the price for an alternator for a 8BTD gen on their parts site. Nothing special 50 amp. $970 last time I looked! That’s one of the reasons that I did not even think about doing a rebuild of my WB gen.
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I was helping (mostly watching) a neighbor remove the generator section from his Westerbeke genset yesterday. What surprised me was that the rotor remained bolted to the engine and the stator came off with the outer housing. Is this normal for a genset or just this brand?
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Porman You are describing the westerbeke BTD version where the rotor relies on the engine for its end bearing and makes the design shorter than the other version where the rotor has its own bearing.
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If you want a laugh, look up the price for an alternator for a 8BTD gen on their parts site. Nothing special 50 amp. $970 last time I looked! That’s one of the reasons that I did not even think about doing a rebuild of my WB gen.
Try this: The 8BTD is a Mitsubishi K3D engine. Try looking up an alternator using this information, should fit.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Alterna...kAAOSwt69ePjjD
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How do you determine the actual engine manufacturer for Westerbeke generators?

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Research

If the engine is Mitsubishi it will have the model cast in the block just above the fuel injector pump. My 8KWBTD for example has a K3D cast into the block.

My manual says that the engine alone is a Westerbeke model W21, more research leads to the Mitsubishi K3D also.
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Try this: The 8BTD is a Mitsubishi K3D engine. Try looking up an alternator using this information, should fit.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Alterna...kAAOSwt69ePjjD

Right. The WB price is >6X the ebay price. One heck of a premium for red paint!
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I don't think Westerbeke even makes the marine items, it just paints and bolts them on. If you look, some other company made them. There many sources for replacement heat exchangers, pumps alternators and starters. Yacht engine raw water pumps often are used on more than one brand of engine and almost any alternator will work, maybe with minor bracket changes. Coolant pumps on smaller engines are the same as auto version.
Ebay is a good source for many parts. Some of the sellers have full price stores but do volume sales on eBay.
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Just as an aside, how about fitting a local, mechanical oil pressure gauge to the engine? Next time the sender goes out (a very strange occurrence in my view) you can check your mechanical gauge to see all is well and just keep on running the genny.
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R u certain it’s the sending unit (check with meter)
Had the same issue on my Westerbeke, turned out to be the actual gauge!
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