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Old 01-14-2020, 12:00 PM   #1
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Volvo TAMD40B costs

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I know I'm about to open a can of worms but the vast knowledge here could be very useful. We looked a Marine Trader that fits almost all our wants and must haves but the main issue is that 1 engine has starter issues and possibly numerous oils leaks, We cannot tell for sure on the oil leaks as the starter is inoperable to determine the origin. Now here's the can of worms; does anyone have a ballpark figure as to what a replacement might cost, or the cost of rebuilding? I have read that parts are very expensive if they can be found in remote locations, outside large urban areas.
The price of the boat makes this issue doable if we can get a generalized cost for either.
BTW its a 1986.
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Donít know what they cost, but Volvo parts tend to be expensive.
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I have TAMD40Bs. I see running takeouts all the time for around $5K.


New OSGR starters are cheap. Around $150
Engine Circulating pump new is around $700
Raw Water Pumps are around $300
Heat exchangers, After cooler and oil cooler are big bucks.
The fuel pump and injectors are also big bucks.
There is still a lot of used parts and engines out there.
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I have TAMD40Bs. I see running takeouts all the time for around $5K.


New OSGD starters are cheap. Around $150
Engine Circulating pump new is around $700
Raw Water Pumps are around $300
Heat exchangers, After cooler and oil cooler are big bucks.
The fuel pump and injectors are also big bucks.
There is still a lot of used parts and engines out there.
Hope this helps.
Thanks, a running take out for 5K is not to bad. Any idea what it would cost to rebuild the existing engine?
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Donít know what they cost, but Volvo parts tend to be expensive.
I would agree. A friend had Volvos and his parts were sometimes 3X what it was for my CATS
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Old 01-14-2020, 01:30 PM   #6
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Thanks, a running take out for 5K is not to bad. Any idea what it would cost to rebuild the existing engine?
No I do not.

Furthermore I would not do that. If my engines needed to be overhauled rather than fixed, I would look at new electronically controlled 4 cylinder common rails. Todays 4 cylinders have as much or more power than my TAMD40Bs. The fuel mileage would be much better.
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Old 01-14-2020, 02:31 PM   #7
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As a twin Volvo owner for 20 years, my advice would be to run, not walk, to the nearest exit. Volvo parts, if you can find them, and that's a big if, will cost you triple that of Cats or Cummins.
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No I do not.

Furthermore I would not do that. If my engines needed to be overhauled rather than fixed, I would look at new electronically controlled 4 cylinder common rails. Todays 4 cylinders have as much or more power than my TAMD40Bs. The fuel mileage would be much better.
I haven't thought of that, would make sense.
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As a twin Volvo owner for 20 years, my advice would be to run, not walk, to the nearest exit. Volvo parts, if you can find them, and that's a big if, will cost you triple that of Cats or Cummins.
That's what I have read but some are reasonable. Just doing my due diligence before I screw up!
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If I had exerted "due diligence" I would have never bought a boat with Volvo engines.
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Great idea to look at something a bit more modern if you replace the motor. I wouldn't however not look at a boat because it has Volvos. Thousands of boats are built with Volvos every year. If the rest of the boat checks off the boxes it's hard to do otherwise. Maybe while your at it if you want change brands. Weigh all the benefits and make a decision that your excited about. It will be right for you!
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I haven't thought of that, would make sense.
Thanks.
Not sure it does. The cost of an engine swap for something different entails lots of changes, exhaust,mounts, electricals, instruments, prop shaft length,gearbox, etc. Way cheaper to fix what is there if it is fixable, or swap like for like. However, the boat in question has Volvos, perhaps its other pluses outweigh that drawback.
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Replacing the worn out and expensive to maintain/repair Volvos will be rather expensive. A pair of Yanmar 4LVs will cost maybe $50K for the engines, and at least half of that to install them.

Rebuild the Volvo if it needs it and it doesn't sound like it needs it for sure. $20K is a good round number for a rebuild and another $5K to pull and replace it after rebuild.


But you can replace the starter and chase down the oil leaks a lot cheaper than that.


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Replacing the worn out and expensive to maintain/repair Volvos will be rather expensive. A pair of Yanmar 4LVs will cost maybe $50K for the engines, and at least half of that to install them.

Rebuild the Volvo if it needs it and it doesn't sound like it needs it for sure. $20K is a good round number for a rebuild and another $5K to pull and replace it after rebuild.


But you can replace the starter and chase down the oil leaks a lot cheaper than that.


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F.Y.I. there is a "Volvo Penta Victims" page on Facebook.
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Thanks everyone for your input. We talked to the owner and offered to replace the starter at our expense to determine the extent of the oil leak. Surprisingly he declined, or maybe not surprisingly. Big red flag!!!! It is now fallen completely off our list.
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Hi,

You can check the prices of spare parts kits (overhaul) here for example. That 40 Series Volvo is one of the best and most reliable marine engines that has been manufactured in great numbers.

Overhaul Kits - Marine Parts Express

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A good decision I think. Some reason he doesn't want that engine running (or trying to run)
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Thanks everyone for your input. We talked to the owner and offered to replace the starter at our expense to determine the extent of the oil leak. Surprisingly he declined, or maybe not surprisingly. Big red flag!!!! It is now fallen completely off our list.
For what it's worth, it sounds like you made the right decision in this case.

As a side note, we have twin Volvos and have been very happy with them. We hesitated at first, due to the price of certain Volvo parts, but we're glad we went ahead with the purchase. A well-maintained Volvo will run a long time. There are plenty of boats in our marina with Volvos and none of them are broken down. Also, there are hundreds of thousands of Volvo-powered trucks and heavy equipment out there. Can't recall ever seeing one broken down. Just one person's opinion.
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Wow, Put yourself in the sellers position for a minute.

You have a boat for sale, one engine is showing some problems, one of which is a non functioning starter. (Or so he says)

Along comes a potential buyer willing to replace the starter at buyers expense, owner declines...

How fast can you get off that boat?

What would the owner say to a survey ?

This is obviously a "RUN, RUN" situation.

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