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Old 07-15-2019, 06:01 AM   #21
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"so yes the US needs to mandate bio diesel as Europe did for the improved lubricity. Some states already require biodiesel to be mixed into diesel.

The problem is there are probably 1000 times as many diesel cars and trucks as boats.

Even with DEF the air police mandated exhaust systems fail rapidly with bio gunk over 5% or so.

Our M-B V6 diesel goes out of warranty if over 5% bio is used and steps are not taken to clear the system.
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"so yes the US needs to mandate bio diesel as Europe did for the improved lubricity. Some states already require biodiesel to be mixed into diesel.

The problem is there are probably 1000 times as many diesel cars and trucks as boats.

Even with DEF the air police mandated exhaust systems fail rapidly with bio gunk over 5% or so.

Our M-B V6 diesel goes out of warranty if over 5% bio is used and steps are not taken to clear the system.
The politicians and technocrats will eventually legislate diesels out of existence for cars and trucks.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/driv...egulator-says/
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style...pe-engine-fuel
https://e360.yale.edu/features/end-o...-out-in-europe
https://www.theguardian.com/environm...targets-report

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...rivers-in-poll
https://www.transportenvironment.org...t-tough-diesel
Its just a matter of when not if that happens here in the USA too. I question the future of diesel engines, you know the market for small craft like ours is a drop in the bucket. So if the trend is negative, then the diesel research will dry up and the engines no longer will be available for sale. It might be years away, but already EU is going that way in 10 yrs or less.

I really wonder what will happen to the price of diesel fuel, if diesel engines decline greatly in number. The incentive to make diesel will decline, what will that do to supply and demand, i just dont know. Big ships will be diesel powered maybe for a very long time to come.
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And this just showed up, Americans no longer want diesel engines, the exception is in heavy duty trucks, of course also bigger boats.
So the trend is set in the direction of doing away with diesel eventually and the public seems to agree. Considering what the EPA has demanded from diesel engine makers and the compliance being so expensive, and in repair cost and upfront costs, of course except for niche applications the public is doing what they logically think they must financially do to cope to the technocrats rules and legislations.

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"so yes the US needs to mandate bio diesel as Europe did for the improved lubricity. Some states already require biodiesel to be mixed into diesel.

The problem is there are probably 1000 times as many diesel cars and trucks as boats.

Even with DEF the air police mandated exhaust systems fail rapidly with bio gunk over 5% or so.

Our M-B V6 diesel goes out of warranty if over 5% bio is used and steps are not taken to clear the system.
Must have a different warranty in Europe then. The reports I have read is that a minimum of 2% solves a lot of lubricity problems with ULSD.
I would be a lot happier if VA did as Oregon does, states like Oregon mandate 5%. I did notice Sunoco diesel runs the engine smoother than WAWA diesel. I called the station but they know nothing.

https://portlandgreenenergy.wordpres...sel-in-oregon/
Oregon has a 5% biodiesel content mandate for all diesel fuel sold in the state. The City of Portland Oregon has a 5% biodiesel content mandate which requires that 50% of the feedstock be from the Pacific NW states. The city and state government believe it will promote the development of a high-tech renewable energy industry based in Oregon.
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