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Old 09-18-2018, 11:51 AM   #21
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Call Brian at http://americandieselcorp.com/ 804-435-3107. Recall that his dad (Bob) co-designed the Lehman Ford marinized diesel. I took Bob's diesel class at a TrawlerFest. Had to tear it down and rebuild it. Then take it outside and fire it up. Runnnnnnn. LOL

Also, you might want to sign up for the next class (Bob's deceased) but run by another guru. It's 2 days and they fill up usually within a day of the announcement. https://www.passagemaker.com/trawlerfest
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Old 09-18-2018, 12:25 PM   #22
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Alrighty . . . Nigel Calder & Steve Zimmerman are teaching the diesel engine class. If anyone could step in for Bob Smith, they can. Do take a look at Nigel's landmark books "Marine Diesel Engines: Maintenance, Troubleshooting, and Repair" and Boatowners Mechanical and Electrical Manual 4/Ed

Also, Brian my be able to get you a copy of the spare parts list for the 120 of items to carry with you.
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Old 09-18-2018, 06:39 PM   #23
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OP here. Went to the boat and...it's not doing it anymore. It DID do it though. Several times in a row. So, will clean connections from switch/button back to the relay and see if anything happens in the future. I did check the electrical connections and they seemd solid as a rock but who knows.

On the classes, I took several including Nigel and Zimmermans "Everything You Need To Know About Diesel Engines" 2 day course at Trawlerfest this past spring. Good basic education on some things but nothing beats you-know-what happening and then coming in here with the issue. Then I go back and figure out what I can. My take is that every boat is different and until I do it on MY boat then all I have is a little limited book knowledge.
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Very wise comment. I had 24 years experience in US Navy ships including command of a diesel powered salvage ship followed by 29 years owning a GB42 with twin Lehman 120s before I switched to this boat with an ENTIRELY different type main engine (Yanmar 315 HP turbo-charged) and generator. I felt like a neophyte with this beast for at least a year until I have been over and over it installing improvements and doing some catch-up maintenance like intercooler maintenance and timing belt change.
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Stop solenoid

I have Lehman SP135 mains and the relay failed and energized the stop solenoid which burnt out with arm stuck on and took me an hour to get engine stopped as I tried everything except reaching into a hot, running motor to fool with linkages until I decided I had no choice but to reach into a hot, running motor and got it stopped. I shut off fuel supply but 30 minutes later was still thrumming away. New relay only $10 but stop solenoid was, I think, $180 from American Diesel.
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Very wise comment.
Ha! I am not exactly known for wise comments here on TF so thanks.

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I have Lehman SP135 mains and the relay failed and energized the stop solenoid which burnt out with arm stuck on and took me an hour to get engine stopped as I tried everything except reaching into a hot, running motor to fool with linkages until I decided I had no choice but to reach into a hot, running motor and got it stopped. I shut off fuel supply but 30 minutes later was still thrumming away. New relay only $10 but stop solenoid was, I think, $180 from American Diesel.
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Maybe I should preemptively replace the relay. Again, this did happen and if it happened once and then stopped it was because the boat gods said "You know, he is comfortably tied up in his slip. What's the fun in that? Let's wait until a more exciting time to do this."

Eddie/Gail, if the same happened to me my knowledge of stopping the engine would end with trying to pull the arm manually and then cutting fuel. Wouldn't have a clue what to do beyond that.
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Maybe I should preemptively replace the relay. Again, this did happen and if it happened once and then stopped it was because the boat gods said "You know, he is comfortably tied up in his slip. What's the fun in that? Let's wait until a more exciting time to do this."

Eddie/Gail, if the same happened to me my knowledge of stopping the engine would end with trying to pull the arm manually and then cutting fuel. Wouldn't have a clue what to do beyond that.

Manually pulling the engine stop lever on the Lehman will stop it immediately and is in a relatively easy to get at location.


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[/QUOTE] Eddie/Gail, if the same happened to me my knowledge of stopping the engine would end with trying to pull the arm manually and then cutting fuel. Wouldn't have a clue what to do beyond that.[/QUOTE]

You can take the air filter element off of a FL120 to uncover the large diameter air tube. Take something like a cutting board (not the floppy ones they sell nowadays) and slap it right across the tube and you are stopped.

If that engine you cut off fuel supply went on for a half hour, you have other sources of fuel like huge filters full of fuel, another connection of which you are unaware, or the sump oil is being consumed in a runaway, which is really bad.
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