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Old 07-21-2017, 07:37 AM   #21
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Last I checked Sea Foam is :
- 50% pale oil
- 35% naptha
- 15% IPA

damn waste of good beer if you ask me :cheers:
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Old 07-21-2017, 07:52 AM   #22
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Of the two I use regularly... Chemtool has proven to be the more aggressive. https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/s...d&action=click


Seafoam: https://seafoamsales.com/

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Berrymans B-12 Chemtool: https://www.berrymanproducts.com/pro...ector-cleaner/
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FWIW - Berryman B-12 Chemtool is:


45-50% Toluene
20-25% Acetone
20-25% Methanol
Plus trace solvents
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Is the Berryman is safe for diesel use? I'd be surprised if it is- given the volatile solvents.
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Old 07-21-2017, 08:27 AM   #25
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FWIW - Berryman B-12 Chemtool is:


45-50% Toluene
20-25% Acetone
20-25% Methanol
Plus trace solvents
Yup - Like I said in post 22 - B-12 is Aggressive!! See the video about Berryman B-12 Chemtool I linked in post 22. That shows just how aggressive it is.

Strips varnish, films and gunk right off fuel lines / engine parts / carburetor and injection system internals. I recommend using per instructions. After getting used to B-12 's capabilities then you can begin to play more with varing concentrations.

I had 4bbl carb that set on shelf for years. It was a gummed up mess. In a bucket I placed that carb for 24 hrs. in 30/70 mix of B-12 to gasoline. That was several years ago... still running that carb with no rebuild since. When I took the carb out of bucket I kept dunking it in the bucket fluid as well as scooping out of the bucket and "Basting" the carb for many minutes. The fluid in bucket became dark as heck. Then I flushed the carb with straight gasoline until there was no more color coming out.

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Yup - Like I said in post 22 - B-12 is Aggressive!! See the video about Berryman B-12 Chemtool I linked in post 22. That shows just how aggressive it is.

Strips varnish, films and gunk right off fuel lines / engine parts / carburetor and injection system internals. I recommend using per instructions. After getting used to B-12 's capabilities then you can begin to play more with varing concentrations.

I had 4bbl carb that set on shelf for years. It was a gummed up mess. In a bucket I placed that carb for 24 hrs. in 30/70 mix of B-12 to gasoline. That was several years ago... still running that carb with no rebuild since. When I took the carb out of bucket I kept dunking it in the bucket fluid as well as scooping out of the bucket and "Basting" the carb for many minutes. The fluid in bucket became dark as heck. Then I flushed the carb with straight gasoline until there was no more color coming out.

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I do use cleaners such as these when rebuilding fuel components such as carburetors. At that time I would be replacing seals, "O" rings and gaskets which are adversely affected by these solvents. They are good at removing extra fuel deposits on parts by hand.
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I've used their carb cleaner, but only after stripping the carb to metal parts. (I've got two carbed cars and 5 carbed boat engines). I find that carbs run on ethanol gas stay pretty clean if not allowed to sit for long periods in humidity. However, I wouldn't use the Berryman in a diesel system unless soaking dismantled parts.

While writing this I decided to defer to my friend "Google". Berryman doesn't recommend the B12 in diesel systems due to the volatility and apparently the reduction in lubricity. They appear to have a number of other products formulated for use in diesels.

https://www.berrymanproducts.com/sol...reat-the-fuel/
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I notice many of the pro seafoam comments are regarding gasoline engines. I am not a fan of chemical "cures" for mechanical problems in diesels.
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Word of caution regarding Berryman's B-12 Chemtool and diesels engines/fuel - B-12 is very flammable!


I'm not sure how flammable Seafoam is... but probably somewhat.
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Old 07-21-2017, 09:44 AM   #30
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I notice many of the pro seafoam comments are regarding gasoline engines. I am not a fan of chemical "cures" for mechanical problems in diesels.

Do you mean quotes like these?...
Just add one can every "XXX" hours or gallons and enjoy these results:
- Increased mileage
- Clean injectors
- Removal of carbon
- Decreased engine temperatures
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Seafoam: good or bad idea?

We have used Seafoam for years with great results. Great for outboards, jet skis, chainsaws, high mileage engines.

Years ago I Took apart a gummed up dried out carburetor tested it on the dried gunk inside the fuel bowl and it basically melted the gunk right before my eyes. Sold me!

My years of hard starting 2 cycle engines has diminished using Seafoam in the fuel to keep the fuel system clean.

In our area if you can buy it for less than $7 a can you got a good deal.

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When I bought my boat I added seafoam to the diesel tanks. The fuel went black in the see through bowls. I ran it down real low and changed filters when I refuelled. It has remained clear ever since.
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Another recommendation for Seafoam. I bought our dingy motor, 4 hp Yamaha from the 1990's, from a guy in Clinton, Connecticut who had about 100 outboards on racks and lying in the grass behnd his garage. Got it home and after a week or two it sputtered out and would no longer start. I took the whole thing apart thinking if I couldn't get it back together, oh well, it was an educational exercise for me in outboard motors. I soaked the carb parts in Seafoam, cleaned everything, freed up a tiny carb gasket flapper, put some Seafoam in the gas tank, and it's been running well ever since.
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I am not a proponent of chemical cures either, there is no "Can of Rebuild". But I read about it's cleaning properties and saw the results in the bowls of the Racors. I feel that $100 canbucks of seafoam saved me $500 Canbucks of fuel polishing with the added benefits of it cleaning all the fuel lines as well.
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Posts: 1 I carry a gallon in the boat at all times, I treat every few tanks just because. I have used the regular sea foam fuel additive in gasoline, diesel and in crankcase oil. I also used the spray can you spray into the intake to clean up the intake, cylinders and valves. I swear by it. I first used it to treat my tanks and clean up my fuel system in the boat, noticed immediate improvement in idle quality and cruise power. That was years ago. I use it in my lawnmower and other small engines to clean up deposits from the E85 fuel if left sitting for too long, haven't had to tear apart a carb in quite a while. Recently bought a car that had been sitting stored for 30+ years, it ran but the oil Control rings appeared stuck and lifters sticking (ticking) Added sea foam to fresh clean crankcase oil and ran for a hundred miles or so. Oil came out black as night, car now runs like new. Also fog carb with the aerosol on all engines. I swear by it



Guess I am both a ‘Belt’ and ‘Suspender’ boater. I use both. I swear by Sea Foam having used it in both my autos, small engines, and both my diesel boats. In the fuel tanks. I add a measurement of Marvel Mystery Oil on each fuel up. Too old to change my ways! No evidence of any singular incident of being wrong to use both or either.

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Recently bought a car that had been sitting stored for 30+ years, it ran but the oil Control rings appeared stuck and lifters sticking (ticking) Added sea foam to fresh clean crankcase oil and ran for a hundred miles or so. Oil came out black as night, car now runs like new.

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26 Tolly - Sorry for thinking it was Al's barn find,

OMG - I know EXACTLY what that 69 Dodge Dart Swinger is! "Trapper" a lobsterman best friend of mine in Maine had the same car with four speed stick. In 1971 we used to race that little beast. It was Really, Really Fast!

I currently put about 4K miles a year on my 430 cid, 360 hp. 67 Buick Wildcat.

I use "Seafoam" and Berryman B-12 Chemtool for keeping internal parts clean of all my liquid-fuel engines. Chemtool is stronger stuff, both work well. I use Sta-Bil and Soltron in my fuel tanks that will have fuel sit for long periods; such as inboard boats with hundreds of gallon tanks.
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26 Tolly - Sorry for thinking it was Al's barn find,

OMG - I know EXACTLY what that 69 Dodge Dart Swinger is! "Trapper" a lobsterman best friend of mine in Maine had the same car with four speed stick. In 1971 we used to race that little beast. It was Really, Really Fast!

I currently put about 4K miles a year on my 430 cid, 360 hp. 67 Buick Wildcat.

I use "Seafoam" and Berryman B-12 Chemtool for keeping internal parts clean of all my liquid-fuel engines. Chemtool is stronger stuff, both work well. I use Sta-Bil and Soltron in my fuel tanks that will have fuel sit for long periods; such as inboard boats with hundreds of gallon tanks.
Forgiven Art, a understandable assumption. I errored in punctuation of which I am famous for. On the subject of cars, We own a 1994 Jaguar XJS coupe 4.0. I have Seafoamed this car from the day we purchased some 14 years ago. We don't drive it much, maybe on a sunny day (Ha ha ha-150+ inches of rain per year) and on our annual drive through B.C Canada to Washington state. Maybe a trip down California coast, and over to Arizona on odd years.

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