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12-14-2016, 03:00 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Bellingham, WA / Waterford, CT
Vessel Name: Change of Latitude
Vessel Model: 2005 GB 42 Classic
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 31
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Rudder stops
How unusual is it for a boat not to have rudder stops? Our boat is 12 years old. We have had it for 7 years and not had any problems.
Is this something every boat should have?
What are possible consequences if we continue not to have them.
Are cable stops the best solution?
Thanks for any experience you can share.
Cheers,
Don
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12-14-2016, 03:36 PM
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Guru
City: Kenai, Alaska
Vessel Name: Melanie Rose
Vessel Model: 1999 Willard PH
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,236
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None on my boat... I would think a well built hydraulic ram would be quite strong enough for any reasonable load, anything the ram wouldn't handle would probably damage some other part of the system or the rudder. It might be better to lose the ram than to break something else that would cost more to repair. Just my thoughts...
Looking forward to other thoughts on the subject :-)
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12-14-2016, 04:01 PM
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Guru
City: Beaverton, Ontario
Vessel Name: Looking Glass
Vessel Model: Carver 370 Voyager
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,240
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AKDoug
None on my boat... I would think a well built hydraulic ram would be quite strong enough for any reasonable load, anything the ram wouldn't handle would probably damage some other part of the system or the rudder. It might be better to lose the ram than to break something else that would cost more to repair. Just my thoughts...
Looking forward to other thoughts on the subject :-)
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X2, the end of the stroke of the ram in both directions is essentially the rudder stop. I don't have stops either.
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12-14-2016, 11:09 PM
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Guru
City: hawaii
Vessel Name: #31
Vessel Model: ex-Navy MUB 50 fish/cruise
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 869
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I think the stops are a holdover from the days of mechanical and cable steering.
My boat has them, and they were a good reference point for setting up the hydraulic system, but I don't see the necessity of having them.
I suppose if something broke while the boat was moving backwards, the stops would prove helpful.
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12-15-2016, 12:45 AM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,559
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Got stops and hydraulic steering, but I'd have, and do, a rudder-indicator nevertheless.
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12-15-2016, 05:19 AM
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TF Site Team
City: Saltspring Island
Vessel Name: Retreat
Vessel Model: C&L 44
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 5,656
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Rudder Stops?
I haven't had cable steering tho. Only a tiller or hydraulic. So no stops.
My Dad had a boat on which the tiller steering would allow you to spin the rudder 360 degrees. Handy for backing down.
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Keith
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12-15-2016, 08:10 AM
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Guru
City: gulf coast
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 3,440
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with a big rudder and going astern pressure on the rudder can get high. Possibly in overtaking ses as well. A Stop is cheap insurance against broken steering. In either direction rudder angle beyond a certain point acts more as a brake than steering device.
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12-15-2016, 05:20 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Bellingham, WA / Waterford, CT
Vessel Name: Change of Latitude
Vessel Model: 2005 GB 42 Classic
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 31
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Thanks very much for sharing your experiences and thoughts. We have a GB so rudders are pretty small though I do not know how solid the rudder posts are. We also have hydraulic steering so rams may serve as effective stops. Have a good rudder indicator, too. I wonder if there are any other GBs with hydraulic steering and rudder stops? Thanks again for taking the time to share your thoughts!
Cheers,
Don
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12-15-2016, 06:06 PM
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Technical Guru
City: Wilmington, NC
Vessel Name: Louisa
Vessel Model: Custom Built 38
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 6,194
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Handy if rudder hardware breaks. Back down in that instance and rudder tangles with prop. Bad JuJu.
If you sense loss of steering, just do not back down.
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