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Old 03-03-2018, 07:55 PM   #21
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I prefer to use Fleetguard filters, they were highly regarded in the heavy equipment industry, and Tony Athens reccomeds them for marine applications, which is a golden reference, IMO.
There are huge differences, even within a brand, so due diligence is required to make the right choice.
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Old 03-03-2018, 08:18 PM   #22
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OK guys before jumping to conclusions...well on TF I know that aint gonna happen....

The remote filter adapter for my 120, and I bet a boatload of other engines with generic aftermarket remote filter adapters will accept many models of filters.

I know the remote adapter for the 120 will take a motorcraft FL-1A, which I think is the same as a PH8A and Purolator LS 30001.

If an adapter, then it may take many more numbers as long as the threads match and the o ring snugs against tbe bottom plate.

So, use a filter of choice, but dont feel like it has to be engine specific, just has to fit the adspter if it is one.
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Old 03-03-2018, 08:29 PM   #23
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I’m pretty sure that PH8A is an oil filter designed for ford passenger cars. You can try cross referencing it to Baldwin filters. I use wix, Baldwin and cats because of the ease to acquire but i’ve never Seen an oil filter fail when changed out every 100 hours.
Agreed, should be thinking of other things. Just thought since I was about to buy new filters for the oil change, none came with the boat, I would investigate a little. I thought I'd spend 5 minutes to search and decide on a good filter, order them, and move on. Nope. Not that easy. It's a boat.
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Fleetguard has an excellent cross reference tool, and they are another quality brand. Google cummins filtration and you should find it.
Thanks, used their cross reference and they don't have anything that matches the Fram or the Mobile 1 M1-301 which is shown on other cross ref. charts.
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Old 03-03-2018, 08:33 PM   #25
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Surely someone on this forum with SP135's knows the specific oil filter part number they use. Its not that hard of a question.
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I prefer to use Fleetguard filters, they were highly regarded in the heavy equipment industry, and Tony Athens reccomeds them for marine applications, which is a golden reference, IMO.
Fleetguard certainly makes good filters. Think part of Tony's recommendation comes Fleetguard's willingness to make filters for his fuel filter system. Unless I'm mistaken, they are the only ones making filters for his system.

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Thanks everyone. Think I will go with the NAPA or WIX 51515. Their "Platinum" filter which seems to have some better features and are available pretty much everywhere I look. Will do so knowing that the extra $5 will mostly likely only go towards making me feel good about it.
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Baldwin B2 or NAPPA 1515 = happy SP135
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Old 03-03-2018, 08:42 PM   #29
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I use Wix filters on my FL135s and my generator. Oil tests at the end of each season have always come back excellent so I know the filters are doing their jobs.
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Oops, not so fast. One last question. I have seen some filters that come in a "2 quart" version. I assume they are longer and have more filter media? Any REAL benefit to these?
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Baldwin B2 or NAPPA 1515 = happy SP135
Thats what the previous owner used on my Lehman 120....Napa 1515 and Wix 51515.

I have used Wix, Napa, Purolator and Motorcraft for 3100 hours...oil analysis for oil changes every 100 to 150 hours all the same, the oil filters are not changing anything that fast...maybe long term, but for a 100 to 200 hour interval, I wouldnt sweat it if using a reasonable quality filter.

But my point was.... all these fit the remote adapter seen on many Lehmans.
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I searched "Oil Filter Comparison", and found lots of videos of men dissecting a range of filters and comparing the contents. This one included FRAM, so I selected it,but check some others,the one with a cat co-demonstrating looked helpful.
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I searched "Oil Filter Comparison", and found lots of videos of men dissecting a range of filters and comparing the contents. This one included FRAM, so I selected it,but check some others,the one with a cat co-demonstrating looked helpful.
While the video is helpful, the unanswered question is, "what is the quality of the filter media"?

I have 440,000 miles on the B Cummins in my Dodge pickup. Oil analysis confirms what I already know, the WIX filter is doing a good job.

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"Oops, not so fast. One last question. I have seen some filters that come in a "2 quart" version. I assume they are longer and have more filter media? Any REAL benefit to these?"

Good question, many boat engine converters stress the physical size of the engine so it can be easily fitted, or retrofitted.

Way back the tiny Volvo lube filters were rally expensive (surprise!) and a check in the Fram cross book showed the PH8A to be identical , just bigger.

This might apply to any common boat engine , the truck or industrial filter will be the same , just larger.

With more filter to collect gunk, and more surface area a larger filter would be worth exploring.

No downside to more lube oil either.

Way back Consumer Reports did an on engine test real world oil filter test of NYC taxicabs ,

Fram had the best results, but that as decades ago.
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The filter media is not the only important thing about oil filters. Mechanical construction is important as well. If internal parts fail or the case fails, this could mean a quick death for an engine.

I know someone in the lubricant business. He showed me photos of different brands of filters that he had personally cut open. It's been a while but as I recall, Fram could easily be seen to be inferior. WIX was good. He said Donaldson was the best but they don't have a filter for my engine so I'm sticking with WIX.
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NAPA filters are made by WIX. WIX also builds for OEM. A Deere and a WiX filter are identical down to the internal stamp marks, just different exterior paint. You will also find WIX makes all kinds of fuel filters like the ones on my Deere, the Kabota engine in my Onan generator, and the final fuel filters on my B And C series Cummins engines.

Fleetfilters.com is a good source for them. They and WIX have online converts to cross most other brands to WiX filters.

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Only certain ISO rated WIX plants have the QA QC approval from Napa. As best I understand they are located only in the US. WIX has non US plants, several in China, for those markets.

My Napa Golds come from the US plants. But, they are a few bucks more than OEM when purchased in Canada. It can get confusing.
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The filter media is not the only important thing about oil filters. Mechanical construction is important as well. If internal parts fail or the case fails, this could mean a quick death for an engine.

I know someone in the lubricant business. He showed me photos of different brands of filters that he had personally cut open. It's been a while but as I recall, Fram could easily be seen to be inferior. WIX was good. He said Donaldson was the best but they don't have a filter for my engine so I'm sticking with WIX.
Despite my best attempts to keep from turning yet another Firstbase-Mission-From-God I have now turned it into a Firstbase-Mission-From-God. Have watched 100 videos over the last 36 hours. Wife went shopping yesterday because she was "tired of listening to YouTube oil filter crap". somewhere around Came to the conclusion that the brands bashed on the internet i.e. Fram, WIX, etc. also make good quality filters as well as lesser. All depends on the specs they are built to. Synthetic filter material better than cellulose, coil sping better than leaf spring, thicker cartridge better than thinner, silicon antiflow back better than rubber...on and on. don't even get me started about everyone's take on "99% effective on microns >20". I've decided to use one that has the attributes I see as important. I will throw it away in 100 hours. Seems to me the process and dedication to changing the oil and filter every 100 hours is much more important than the filter I put back on. Plus that 100 hours take a little less than a year. The difference between the low of $3.00+= and the high of $17.00+- once or even twice a year doesn't seem worth discussing as compared to everything else on the boat.
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The same maker will have more than one quality level. NAPA Gold is # 1515. Silver is 21515. Both made by Wix.

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I still use Fram filters. I also get great oil sample reports.
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Our SP 135 oil filter base is different then some. Originally came with NAPA 1843. Now use Baldwin BT 126.
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