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08-12-2014, 03:12 PM
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Well Ski who I respect has said that low load does no harm but no load does (or was it Kevin who said the latter)
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Or me, that might change your opinion now? ;o) :
Trawler Forum - View Single Post - Generator Loading Requirements
Phasors seem to be pretty good, when I was looking around seriously (as it turned out momentarily) for a second generator, Phasor and Norpro had a lot of happy owners at the "value" end of the spectrum.
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08-12-2014, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by obthomas
Bill
You have read every word that I have said. I have said buy all the generator you need but ......Never once did I say buy more generator than you need. A UPS system? you are kidding right? More batteries, charger, switch place to put it.....Just what I need.
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Perhaps I did misread.
And no I'm not kidding. A simple battery back up is not even remotely complicated. It plugs into the outlet and you plug your SAT TV boxes and TV into it. No more system cut out when you switch power sources or lose power for a few minutes or more depending on the battery size of the unit and the draw of the stuff plugged into it. I install them all the time. They make the owners, guests and charterers very happy. You can pick them up in any office supply store or else where.
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08-12-2014, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Capt.Bill11
Put you SAT TV and TV boxes on a UPS and you won't have that problem.
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. . . . or put the TV and entertainment center on an inverter circuit. There's your battery backup. We do that on Moonstruck to have Sat TV and DVDs at anchor without running the generator.
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08-12-2014, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Capt.Bill11
Perhaps I did misread.
And no I'm not kidding. A simple battery back up is not even remotely complicated. It plugs into the outlet and you plug your SAT TV boxes and TV into it. No more system cut out when you switch power sources or lose power for a few minutes or more depending on the battery size of the unit and the draw of the stuff plugged into it. I install them all the time. They make the owners, guests and charterers very happy. You can pick them up in any office supply store or else where.
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A few years ago the mainline battery backups would not sense a charge if it was coming from a modified sine wave inverter. Don't know if this has changed in the last few years but if you have a msw inverter you might give that some thought.
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08-12-2014, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Moonstruck
. . . . or put the TV and entertainment center on an inverter circuit. There's your battery backup. We do that on Moonstruck to have Sat TV and DVDs at anchor without running the generator.
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Yes there are a few ways to do it. There's no reason to have the system have to reboot just due to a momentary power drop.
But if you're busy rolling on the floor laughing you may not see that.
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08-12-2014, 10:27 PM
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I have a little rack mount ups to feed the satcom gear and networking equipment.
What I found is that even though these loads were on inverter, when the inverter transitions between inverting and charging modes the loads experience a power hit.
The little ups solved that.
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08-14-2014, 10:04 AM
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The lowest cost method of using a modest noisemaker is load shedding.
If its too much of a PIA to turn of the HW heater when the range is operated a $60 will do it automatically.
With a bit of thinking most boats can be powered with a noisemaker that can operate all the air cond units .
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