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Old 12-28-2018, 12:54 PM   #141
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Someone questioned my credentials to comment on oil additives. I graduated from the school of hard knocks. That said I have a small fleet of 50 OTR trucks as well as a pilot and operator of many piston engine powered aircraft. I also supplied Ed Kolen oil analysis to see what effect the use of Camguard was on our engines. We were not compensated for supplying to data nor do I have any financial interest in Camguard. We saw fairly significant reductions in FE in our post Camguard tests. Other trace metals declined as well, but the most significant reduction was FE. Oxidized FE is rust, something you don't want in the engine.

I'm not a chemist, but the product data supplied by Marvel Mystery oil suggest that at best it may serve as a solvent and remove some undesirable gunk that accumulates on various engine parts. Does it help your engine? Possibly, but i`ve yet to see a scientific study demonstrating the benefits.

My intention is not to flame here. Like others I want to report on what has or has not worked to extend the life of our engines. If you like Seafoam or Marvel Mystery oil go ahead and use it. I don't think it will harm your engine. It may also lead to temporary improvement in engine operation.

ZDDP has been used as an additive in engine oils for years and it has been demonstrated to improve oil performance.

In the end, the single most important thing,we can do for our engines is to service them often and operate them often.
MMO cleans valves and valve seats and improves compression. Period.
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It looks like it’s drifting a little so I’ll add my 2 cents . I’m sure most of you know that I’ve had my share of heart trouble. Five or six stents (lost count ) two open heart surgeries and countless attempts to make the last open heart surgery work . I now have permanent heart damage,15% to be exact. I take under the tongue nitroglycerin almost daily .
I know for a fact if I’ve had a couple glasses of red wine or a couple rum drinks I don’t wake up in the middle of the night reaching for my nitro like I have to on the nights I don’t have a drink . Not diagnosing but I ain’t lying either.
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Art yes I’ve had to back away from coffee some . But since I’m drinking less coffee I can afford their Private Reserve Louisiana Blend .
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MMO cleans valves and valve seats and improves compression. Period.
Yep, that's why everyone uses it.
Not......
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I like this. It goes along with another theory I heard. If you squish something and it washes away with plain water it is less likely to hurt you.


Don't think I've ever heard of Armagnac, thanks.


What is the difference between a Cognac and Armagnac?
Unsurprisingly, Cognac is made in Cognac and Armagnac is made in Armagnac, in the Gascony region. While the two carry similarities, they also have some differences. ... However, Cognac typically only uses the Ugni Blanc grape, while Armagnac uses three additional grape varietals: Folle blanche, Colombard, and Baco Blanc.Jul 13, 2015


How about Kvass and beet rum? Gotta put hair on your chest?
Also Armagnac is made by distillation of white wines from Bordeaux area (south west), cognac with wines from ( you guess it) Cognac. If grapes are coming from outside Cognac area, then it is Brandy and cannot be named cognac, kinda like Champagne vs sparkling wine.


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Originally Posted by geoleo
MMO cleans valves and valve seats and improves compression. Period.

Are there verifiable stats on this? Or, is it simply a Marvelous Mystery??

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MMO cleans valves and valve seats and improves compression. Period.

Are there verifiable stats on this? Or, is it simply a Marvelous Mystery??

Would a daily dose of Mystery Oil help cardiac health?
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Old 12-28-2018, 06:21 PM   #148
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The big mystery of MMO is how they continue to convince people to buy it.
It’s a mystery and everybody lovesa mystery.

My personal opinion is that it’s a good cutting oil and probably nothing else.
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It’s a mystery and everybody lovesa mystery.

My personal opinion is that it’s a good cutting oil and probably nothing else.
"... probably nothing else."
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....it’s a good cutting oil and probably nothing else.
A cutting comment Eric, but very likely "on the money".
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Its awesome for lubricating shift/throttle cables, and I have used it in the past to free up rusted/frozen E brake cables.
And of course I've used it in the past to "fog" gas engines for storage.

But after reading that lubricity study years ago I won't add it to my fuel.
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. probably nothing else."



No , No, the 1 gallon can , trimmed properly , looks great on my dry stack exhaust.
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Art yes I’ve had to back away from coffee some . But since I’m drinking less coffee I can afford their Private Reserve Louisiana Blend .
Private Reserve Louisiana Blend?? - Community Coffee have that? Is it bold? IMO... coffee no bold = coffee no good!

Couple ta three pots daily. 4:30 AM = my wake hour. 10:30 PM = sleep. So much to do; so little time to do it!



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Private Reserve Louisiana Blend?? - Community Coffee have that? Is it bold? IMO... coffee no bold = coffee no good!

Couple ta three pots daily. 4:30 AM = my wake hour. 10:30 PM = sleep. So much to do; so little time to do it!



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Yes Art Community Coffee has a few private blends . I think it’s kinda bold.
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While I can't comment on the usefulness of MMO, I can verify that consumption of at least one beer per day reduces excess beer accumulation in the refrigerator or cooler. I know this for a fact as FlyWright and I (along with help from other dedicated TF members) did extensive testing of this theroy last February.

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Would a daily dose of Mystery Oil help cardiac health?
Not sure about the "cardiac" part... but would certainly grease the ol' skids for the morning constitutional, I would think...!!!

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Not sure about the "cardiac" part... but would certainly grease the ol' skids for the morning constitutional, I would think...!!!

That's coffee's job!!
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"I can verify that consumption of at least one beer per day reduces excess beer accumulation in the refrigerator or cooler. I know this for a fact as FlyWright and I (along with help from other dedicated TF members) did extensive testing of this theroy last February."


I'll help with the next de-beering of the fridge , where will the boat be?
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While I can't comment on the usefulness of MMO, I can verify that consumption of at least one beer per day reduces excess beer accumulation in the refrigerator or cooler. I know this for a fact as FlyWright and I (along with help from other dedicated TF members) did extensive testing of this theroy last February.

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That counts as a peer review so we can officially add this to the body of proven knowledge. File under the heading: Standard Operating Procedure.
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