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05-04-2017, 09:01 PM
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Adjusting Fuel Cutoff Solenoid-HELP
Hey TF. I spend the morning with a Cummins Technician on the phone and he had me go through some steps It would seem my fuel cutoff solenoid is bad. Shorted to ground.
If you have been following us, you know we had a rough crossing over the Columbia River Bar. This put water into one of my cylinders causing a hydraulic lock. I pulled all the injectors (3 in all) and turned over the engine and blew out all the water. Put everything back together and it ran for 4 hours, but I had fuel all over everything, to include the fuel cutoff solenoid. This caused it to go bad.
Does anyone know the proper procedure to adjust the rod on this solenoid?
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05-04-2017, 09:21 PM
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Did you check at the price f a replacement part? Diesel fluid solenoid should not be very expensive if m right, this may be easier.
Just a thought from a rookie
L.
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05-04-2017, 09:23 PM
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Which model engine?
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05-04-2017, 09:36 PM
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Onan
Model and Spec: 8.0 MDKD-3CR/26501B
Ser# I870947950
There is nothing in my manuals that show the adjustment procedures...
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05-04-2017, 09:45 PM
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I hope you checked the crankcase oil for signs of water from the hydrolock....
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05-04-2017, 10:56 PM
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Ok Tom, sounds like a new genny is on the wish list for next year, damn, and I thought a Auto Pilot would make the top of the list.
I am so glad we got "Otto" fixed, the admiral really talks sweet nothings to "Otto"
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05-04-2017, 11:51 PM
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Adjust it so when it pulls across, it pulls across all the way. That way, once it starts, the "hold" is active, not the "pull across" bit. Unless it pulls right across it won`t start.
Where was all the fuel coming from?
The 2 problems I`ve had are:
1)the fuel solenoid. If it goes bad, replace it. I think the solenoid for MDKD and DKD is part 307-2546-00. (Cummins $300,Chinese version $60, Cummins one is made in China.)
2)The fuel filter not sealing in the housing it screws into, due to the housing being out of shape (?overtightening)= fuel everywhere. When I fitted the filter, and test ran it, dry as..next time, leaked copiously. Solution, new filter housing.
Some discussion about the solenoid is/was here: www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89089
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05-05-2017, 08:28 AM
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On the MDKD, you adjust the fuel solenoid linkage so when fully retracted (energized), there is still some slop in the linkage. Plunger needs to fully bottom. It is not that important that stop lever be held firm against its stop.
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05-05-2017, 11:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rochepoint
I hope you checked the crankcase oil for signs of water from the hydrolock....
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I did, no water
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05-05-2017, 11:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BruceK
Where was all the fuel coming from?
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I was getting fuel out of the line feeding the injectors. Yes I did turn the fuel off.
Thanks
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05-05-2017, 11:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crusty Chief
Ok Tom, sounds like a new genny is on the wish list for next year, damn, and I thought a Auto Pilot would make the top of the list.
I am so glad we got "Otto" fixed, the admiral really talks sweet nothings to "Otto"
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Otto is still sleeping. Should get part this afternoon. Yep I paid the Cummins price.
There is a cheaper china part? Figures
Thanks NC
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05-05-2017, 11:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alaskan Sea-Duction
I did, no water
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Perfect.......
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05-05-2017, 11:59 AM
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I would change the oil, just in case. I did the same on my propulsion engine- hydrolocked it and squeezed the water past the rings with a bar over. After starting and running fine- no visible water but sodium in oil sample was 700 ppm. Should be less than 10.
David
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05-05-2017, 12:29 PM
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I have an MDL3 using a Stanadyne DB2 injector pump, used in many diesels up to 8 cylinders. I've attached a couple of info sheets from Oregon Fuel Injection that may help. I also have a Stanadyne DB2 operation & instruction pdf that is over Trawlers size limit. Could be sent email.
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05-05-2017, 01:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djmarchand
I would change the oil, just in case. I did the same on my propulsion engine- hydrolocked it and squeezed the water past the rings with a bar over. After starting and running fine- no visible water but sodium in oil sample was 700 ppm. Should be less than 10.
David
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Good point.
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05-05-2017, 01:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lepke
I have an MDL3 using a Stanadyne DB2 injector pump, used in many diesels up to 8 cylinders. I've attached a couple of info sheets from Oregon Fuel Injection that may help. I also have a Stanadyne DB2 operation & instruction pdf that is over Trawlers size limit. Could be sent email.
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Thank you
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05-05-2017, 01:08 PM
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Just curious, not familiar with how rough seas get water into engine, guessing from burying the stern in following seas when engine not running?
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05-05-2017, 01:13 PM
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Does the water travel up the exhust or through the through hull pass the raw water pump?
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05-05-2017, 01:22 PM
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I think up the exhaust which is why you want a loop.
But...this is "I think"....far from fact.
Ken
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05-05-2017, 01:45 PM
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I have a water muffler.
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