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Old 02-01-2013, 08:17 PM   #21
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jcwyatt,

The square tiles you show were put in during the 60s/70s and are the same type that people put on recreation room ceilings or gyms. They work very poorly because they are too thin and too light weight. They provide poor damping at high frequencies, and virtually no damping at low ones.

If you are going to all the trouble of replacing or adding sound conditioning to your engine room, I would suggest you look at some the newer products currently available. For example, there are panels you can buy for damping home theater rooms that are quite reasonably priced and easy to work with.
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Old 02-01-2013, 08:33 PM   #22
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Sure there are. However, I'm not going to re-do my entire engine room when I need to replace 4 tiles. I just need something to match.
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Old 02-04-2013, 07:54 AM   #23
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I just need something to match.

To match performance wise should be no problem,
to match esthetically may be impossible with out replacing everything.
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Old 04-01-2019, 09:16 AM   #24
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Does anyone know a source for this acoustic tile in my engine room? I would like to replace a number of missing and damaged tiles, without having to retile both entire engine rooms. I have searched on google and cannot find a vendor. It seems to be a common tile in 70's and 80's boat engine rooms.
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Hi Jcwyatt, how did you find out that the tiles were not asbestos? Did you have them tested? I have the exact same ones on my 1978 41' Roughwater Trawler built in Taiwan (pictures attached)

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Hi Jcwyatt, how did you find out that the tiles were not asbestos? Did you have them tested? I have the exact same ones on my 1978 41' Roughwater Trawler built in Taiwan (pictures attached)

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Just an updated to my previous post:

I had a company (Safe Air Fast Environmental) come in and take samples of the tiles, insulation layers and varnish/paint on the wood and fortunately no traces of asbestos or lead were found!

My boat is a 1978 41' Roughwater Pilot House built in the Taiwan shipyards.
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Thanks for taking the time. It’s nice to know considering how many of us own boats that were built in Taiwan during the 70s and 80s.
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I realize many of these vessels were built outside of the US. Still if new when imported they may have to comply with US standards of the time.

Lead based paint was banned in the US in 1978

Asbestos as bad as it can be, isn't technically banned in totality in the US. (Surprised me) However it isn't likely you will find in products for the US either. Some states have banned it. It is regulated in the Clean Air Act of 1970. It is banned in many applications from a '76 legistaltion.


If you have a vessel built after '78 it is likely none of the real bad things will get you.


Regarding sound deadening, lots of advances have been made in sound and temperatures barriers. As stated above, why not just upgrade? You don't still have 30 to 50 year old electronics do you? You are not filling the crankcase with engine oil that was designed for a 1970 spec, correct? Or are you still using tar for bottom paint?
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Not knowing If I were removingold imported sound tiles from an engine room,

I would take the precaution of a particle mask and a coverall .

$20.00 is under 2 seconds of time on an operating table.
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Stop procrastinating ....get that stuff removed bagged and tossed out. Clean spaces., Paint then map and measure pieces, cut and install Soundown .
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I just bought a whole bunch more of these than I need. If anyone wants a few I'll make you a deal.
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