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Old 11-30-2020, 09:09 AM   #1
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You see any safety equipment???

Okay Florida gang, what happened here?? Give us intel on the news down there. A 32 foot Sea Ray capsizes - I see no life vest, no dinghy, no flares, no radio, no PLB, no nothing.....what the heck - some 80 miles off shore and no nothing.. I am glad he made it, but apparently no distress signals rec'd.
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Old 11-30-2020, 10:09 AM   #2
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Strange to not have an EPIRB/PLB as Florida gives a registration reduction for one...granted for his boat it may have been only $23 or so...but still its something and a reminder from the state what a good idea they are.

The lighter stuff could have drifted away from wind and surface current in that picture...tho again... strange he didn't grab something in case that air pocket went away.


Depending on where the boat sank.... a typical 6db antenna on a Sea Ray (express???) might not have had the range and most people don't/can't use the DSC distress (panic, not registered or connected to GPS, etc)
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Old 11-30-2020, 10:27 AM   #3
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No, but its awfully easy for us to pass judgement with no facts, from the comfort of a recliner and morning coffee...

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Old 11-30-2020, 10:29 AM   #4
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lets not be quick to judge before the facts are in...
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Okay Florida gang, what happened here?? Give us intel on the news down there.
I did a Google Search of "Florida man rescued offshore" and got tons of hits. I'm not sure anyone in Florida is a better resource and they're certainly not accountable for the behavior of an individual.
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I know nothing about this person or the boat, but my experience based on years of doing safety inspections (and writing tickets afterwards) is that for most small cruiser owners, an EPIRB or PLB, dingy, raft, or handheld VHF is a looooong stretch. Most have a few type III PFDs and a waterlogged throwable seat cushion buried in a compartment somewhere, along with some expired flares still in their packaging. Sailors seem to do much better in this regard, and trawler owners even better still

That said, for a boat of that design, it doesn't take long between flooding and capsizing. Anything not within reasonable arm's reach and certainly anything stored down below is often not useful.
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Okay Florida gang, what happened here?? Give us intel on the news down there. A 32 foot Sea Ray capsizes - I see no life vest, no dinghy, no flares, no radio, no PLB, no nothing.....what the heck - some 80 miles off shore and no nothing.. I am glad he made it, but apparently no distress signals rec'd.
I've been living in Florida off and on for 40 years and I have to admit, this is a very weird place, so don't be surprised about anything you read about it.

Boats capsizing in the middle of the Gulf Stream. Planes disappearing into the Bermuda Triangle. Guys carrying M-16s into Walmart. Dead monkeys as road kill on the side of the road. Crazy iguanas chasing my little doggie around.

Fun place to live!


PS- This subject could make an interesting thread on its own.
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Is it any coincidence that "Florida guy" actually lives in Florida?
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Old 11-30-2020, 04:02 PM   #9
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Guys, not passing judgment at all, but I think one of the best boating services we here on the TF (mostly you guys who know more than I) can provide is to discuss what safety gear is needed on all boats and on people's bodies who will be going this far out alone. Having lost a boat underway some 30 years ago, I wear a lot of gear. I don't care that I get funny stares when I come back to our dock from a little jaunt around the island (Hilton Head) in my former 28 ft Sea Ray wearing a Off Shore Inflatable vest, a PLB-1 clipped to my belt, and my water proof radio on the other hip. It will be interesting to hear what happened, what kind of boat etc.
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That’s one lucky dude!
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Wonder what kind of anchor he has. Seems to performing better than the rest of the boat.
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Hard to believe that the bow section was airtight.
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Hard to believe that the bow section was airtight.

The Sea Rays I used to run were incredibly airtight....


But obviously the air bubble isn't real big.
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I sure understand Mark's post - we just got back from a fishing charter off Hilton Head on Saturday. Windy, cold, horizontal rain, and that relatively big charter boat sure was rolling - ice coolers were sliding back and forth, kids were green and barfing (not my kids, but others, ha), lead weights were swinging around. I'm sure we weren't in any serious danger, just really uncomfortable, but I did think to myself if something serious did happen, I'd want a heck of a lot more than one of of those boxy generic orange Type II vests stored under the seat cushions.
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Old 11-30-2020, 08:03 PM   #16
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This is a link to an article and video in Soundings online:

https://www.soundingsonline.com/news...ur-best-choice

Mario Vittone explains why he likes closed-cell foam jackets with big pockets so you can store safety gear—like VHFs and PLBs—that could get you found and out of the water quickly.
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Hard to believe that the bow section was airtight.
They didn’t skimp on caulk with the deck to hull joint fortunately.
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Hard to believe that the bow section was airtight.
Agreed! Maybe all the v berth cushions?

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The Admiral and I frequently play the "what if" game with me asking "what if I suddenly fell overboard"?

She has the sequence down pretty well including shutting down the auto pilot, hitting the MOB button and throwing everything that floats overboard.

True everything might have floated away but he should have been prepared for that air bubble to burst.

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The Admiral and I frequently play the "what if" game with me asking "what if I suddenly fell overboard"?

She has the sequence down pretty well including shutting down the auto pilot, hitting the MOB button and throwing everything that floats overboard.

True everything might have floated away but he should have been prepared for that air bubble to burst.

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Pete, I cannot help myself, sorry.
What exactly would you do if she fell overboard.
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