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11-30-2020, 08:09 AM
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Senior Member
City: Hilton Head Island
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 291
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You see any safety equipment???
Okay Florida gang, what happened here?? Give us intel on the news down there. A 32 foot Sea Ray capsizes - I see no life vest, no dinghy, no flares, no radio, no PLB, no nothing.....what the heck - some 80 miles off shore and no nothing.. I am glad he made it, but apparently no distress signals rec'd.
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11-30-2020, 09:09 AM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,119
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Strange to not have an EPIRB/PLB as Florida gives a registration reduction for one...granted for his boat it may have been only $23 or so...but still its something and a reminder from the state what a good idea they are.
The lighter stuff could have drifted away from wind and surface current in that picture...tho again... strange he didn't grab something in case that air pocket went away.
Depending on where the boat sank.... a typical 6db antenna on a Sea Ray (express???) might not have had the range and most people don't/can't use the DSC distress (panic, not registered or connected to GPS, etc)
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11-30-2020, 09:27 AM
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Guru
City: Looking
Vessel Name: --
Vessel Model: Between boats
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 1,190
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No, but its awfully easy for us to pass judgement with no facts, from the comfort of a recliner and morning coffee...
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11-30-2020, 09:29 AM
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Guru
City: St Augustine,Fl
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,789
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lets not be quick to judge before the facts are in...
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Jack ...Chicken of the sea! Been offshore 3 miles once
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11-30-2020, 12:03 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Westerly, RI
Vessel Name: N/A
Vessel Model: 1999 Mainship 350 Trawler
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 4,154
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark P
Okay Florida gang, what happened here?? Give us intel on the news down there.
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I did a Google Search of "Florida man rescued offshore" and got tons of hits. I'm not sure anyone in Florida is a better resource and they're certainly not accountable for the behavior of an individual.
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11-30-2020, 12:13 PM
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Guru
City: Reno, Nevada
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 1,177
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I know nothing about this person or the boat, but my experience based on years of doing safety inspections (and writing tickets afterwards) is that for most small cruiser owners, an EPIRB or PLB, dingy, raft, or handheld VHF is a looooong stretch. Most have a few type III PFDs and a waterlogged throwable seat cushion buried in a compartment somewhere, along with some expired flares still in their packaging. Sailors seem to do much better in this regard, and trawler owners even better still
That said, for a boat of that design, it doesn't take long between flooding and capsizing. Anything not within reasonable arm's reach and certainly anything stored down below is often not useful.
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11-30-2020, 12:50 PM
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Guru
City: Seattle
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,305
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark P
Okay Florida gang, what happened here?? Give us intel on the news down there. A 32 foot Sea Ray capsizes - I see no life vest, no dinghy, no flares, no radio, no PLB, no nothing.....what the heck - some 80 miles off shore and no nothing.. I am glad he made it, but apparently no distress signals rec'd.
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I've been living in Florida off and on for 40 years and I have to admit, this is a very weird place, so don't be surprised about anything you read about it.
Boats capsizing in the middle of the Gulf Stream. Planes disappearing into the Bermuda Triangle. Guys carrying M-16s into Walmart. Dead monkeys as road kill on the side of the road. Crazy iguanas chasing my little doggie around.
Fun place to live!
PS- This subject could make an interesting thread on its own.
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11-30-2020, 01:48 PM
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Guru
City: Reno, Nevada
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 1,177
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Is it any coincidence that "Florida guy" actually lives in Florida?
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11-30-2020, 03:02 PM
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Senior Member
City: Hilton Head Island
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 291
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Guys, not passing judgment at all, but I think one of the best boating services we here on the TF (mostly you guys who know more than I) can provide is to discuss what safety gear is needed on all boats and on people's bodies who will be going this far out alone. Having lost a boat underway some 30 years ago, I wear a lot of gear. I don't care that I get funny stares when I come back to our dock from a little jaunt around the island (Hilton Head) in my former 28 ft Sea Ray wearing a Off Shore Inflatable vest, a PLB-1 clipped to my belt, and my water proof radio on the other hip. It will be interesting to hear what happened, what kind of boat etc.
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11-30-2020, 03:14 PM
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Guru
City: Cape May, NJ
Vessel Name: Irish Lady
Vessel Model: Monk 36
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 4,947
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That’s one lucky dude!
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Archie
Irish Lady
1984 Monk 36 Hull #46
Currently in Cape May, NJ
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11-30-2020, 03:38 PM
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Guru
City: Powell River, BC
Vessel Name: Northern Spy
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 26
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,073
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Wonder what kind of anchor he has. Seems to performing better than the rest of the boat.
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11-30-2020, 05:02 PM
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Guru
City: Cape May, NJ
Vessel Name: Irish Lady
Vessel Model: Monk 36
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 4,947
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Hard to believe that the bow section was airtight.
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Archie
Irish Lady
1984 Monk 36 Hull #46
Currently in Cape May, NJ
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11-30-2020, 05:10 PM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,119
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Quote:
Originally Posted by High Wire
Hard to believe that the bow section was airtight.
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The Sea Rays I used to run were incredibly airtight....
But obviously the air bubble isn't real big.
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11-30-2020, 05:16 PM
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Guru
City: Sioux Falls, South Dakota
Vessel Name: Xanadu
Vessel Model: Mainship 37 Motor Yacht
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 2,471
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I sure understand Mark's post - we just got back from a fishing charter off Hilton Head on Saturday. Windy, cold, horizontal rain, and that relatively big charter boat sure was rolling - ice coolers were sliding back and forth, kids were green and barfing (not my kids, but others, ha), lead weights were swinging around. I'm sure we weren't in any serious danger, just really uncomfortable, but I did think to myself if something serious did happen, I'd want a heck of a lot more than one of of those boxy generic orange Type II vests stored under the seat cushions.
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11-30-2020, 05:57 PM
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Guru
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
Vessel Model: 1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 8,046
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11-30-2020, 07:03 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Charleston, SC
Vessel Model: Sabre 38 SE
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 85
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This is a link to an article and video in Soundings online:
https://www.soundingsonline.com/news...ur-best-choice
Mario Vittone explains why he likes closed-cell foam jackets with big pockets so you can store safety gear—like VHFs and PLBs—that could get you found and out of the water quickly.
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11-30-2020, 07:13 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Jacksonville
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 11,670
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Quote:
Originally Posted by High Wire
Hard to believe that the bow section was airtight.
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They didn’t skimp on caulk with the deck to hull joint fortunately.
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11-30-2020, 07:17 PM
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Guru
City: Brookline, NH
Vessel Name: Shalloway
Vessel Model: Defever 44, twin Perkins
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 2,259
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Quote:
Originally Posted by High Wire
Hard to believe that the bow section was airtight.
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Agreed! Maybe all the v berth cushions?
Ken
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11-30-2020, 08:26 PM
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Guru
City: Oconto, WI
Vessel Name: Best Alternative
Vessel Model: 36 Albin Aft Cabin
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 3,145
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The Admiral and I frequently play the "what if" game with me asking "what if I suddenly fell overboard"?
She has the sequence down pretty well including shutting down the auto pilot, hitting the MOB button and throwing everything that floats overboard.
True everything might have floated away but he should have been prepared for that air bubble to burst.
pete
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11-30-2020, 09:17 PM
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Guru
City: Gulf Islands, BC Canada
Vessel Name: Sea Sanctuary
Vessel Model: Bayliner 4588
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 4,993
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete Meisinger
The Admiral and I frequently play the "what if" game with me asking "what if I suddenly fell overboard"?
She has the sequence down pretty well including shutting down the auto pilot, hitting the MOB button and throwing everything that floats overboard.
True everything might have floated away but he should have been prepared for that air bubble to burst.
pete
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Pete, I cannot help myself, sorry.
What exactly would you do if she fell overboard.
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You only need one working engine. That is why I have two.
Sea Sanctuary-new to me 1992 Bayliner 4588
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