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Old 04-24-2021, 06:11 PM   #1
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The Sinking Of The Norwester

A sad sight to see.

Watch to the end to learn of the boat's history.

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Old 04-24-2021, 06:38 PM   #2
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Sad on so many levels.

We lucked out and went over some thin water in our first summer of boating, so won't go pointing fingers as to how this happened. The only question I have is: no dinghy big enough for the number of people aboard?

It's bad enough that people would be filming from other boats, but to also have a professional film crew aboard the sinking boat is cruel irony.

Wish them well, and that the vessel can be saved...then they can shop the whole story in Hollywood.
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Old 04-24-2021, 06:59 PM   #3
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Where were the high capacity pumps with which the USCG could have used in an attempt to keep her afloat while towing to a yard? It just looks like everybody is standing around with their thumbs hitched in their belts in exceptionally benign water conditions. Also makes me wonder whether there was anybody aboard with the knowledge oh how to attempt slowing the water ingress.
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Where were the high capacity pumps with which the USCG could have used in an attempt to keep her afloat while towing to a yard? It just looks like everybody is standing around with their thumbs hitched in their belts in exceptionally benign water conditions. Also makes me wonder whether there was anybody aboard with the knowledge oh how to attempt slowing the water ingress.

Right. It looked like almost any extra pump capacity could have saved it. I'm surprised the sheriff's boat didn't have a portable pump, and doubly surprised the Tow Boat US boat didn't have one.
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Old 04-24-2021, 07:58 PM   #5
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Old 04-24-2021, 08:24 PM   #6
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Where were the high capacity pumps with which the USCG could have used in an attempt to keep her afloat while towing to a yard? It just looks like everybody is standing around with their thumbs hitched in their belts in exceptionally benign water conditions. Also makes me wonder whether there was anybody aboard with the knowledge oh how to attempt slowing the water ingress.
Rich - Thank you for saying that... you took the words right out of my mouth!!

What was wrong with everyone?? The water ingress could have been slowed and high volume gasoline pumps should have been brought aboard. Some sort of emergency actions to get pumps on board seems to have had plenty time available. Heck... every owner of a pump or store that carries pumps would most likely be honored to assist in stopping that boat from sinking.

GEEEZZZZ!!!
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Right. It looked like almost any extra pump capacity could have saved it. I'm surprised the sheriff's boat didn't have a portable pump, and doubly surprised the Tow Boat US boat didn't have one.
Heh. Iím not surprised about the Whatcom SO boat, but yes Iíd expect a professional towing service to have one. Iím also surprised that a USCG response boat didnít make the scene in that area, from Bellingham. Maybe they are who boomed it later.
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What the heck were they doing trying to run over that shoal???
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What the heck were they doing trying to run over that shoal???
That is really the question.

I wasnít there so I canít judge. It just appears that there was plenty of time to turn the main engine into a water pump and to start stuffing things into the breach, maybe that was already attempted.
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What the heck were they doing trying to run over that shoal???
Lost situational awareness...had an electronic chart zoomed out too far...depth alarms not set or not loud enough, etc...
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That is sad. Coincidentally Boat International magazine published a photo of John Wayne coming off that boat just a few issues ago.
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Lost situational awareness...had an electronic chart zoomed out too far...depth alarms not set or not loud enough, etc...
....actively filming for their video they supposedly are producing?
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Old 04-25-2021, 08:54 AM   #13
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Sad to see this. Just motored by Norwester a week ago at her moorage in the Swinomish Channel.
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I had to refresh my memory. It was a 2018 issue of Boat Int, and wasn't the Norwester. The photo they ran was John Wayne's bigger boat that he bought after Norwester, his 147' Wild Goose.Click image for larger version

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The Admiral read somewhere today that the captain claimed he crossed an unmarked shoal.

Really sad. What a beautiful yacht.
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This article states:

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...The night before, their chart plotter was updated and read that their path was clear...
https://www.einnews.com/pr_news/5392...n-juan-islands

We don't have a chart plotter. Is it possible that they plotted their course for the day from start to finish and it all "looked good" at a scale which showed the whole days run?

Once you've plotted your course for a days run, should you then zoom in on it so the subtler bottom details appear on the screen, then go over the days course again to double check for bottom details that may not have appeared at the original scale?

Just trying to understand...
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https://www.einnews.com/pr_news/5392...n-juan-islands

We don't have a chart plotter. Is it possible that they plotted their course for the day from start to finish and it all "looked good" at a scale which showed the whole days run?

Once you've plotted your course for a days run, should you then zoom in on it so the subtler bottom details appear on the screen, then go over the days course again to double check for bottom details that may not have appeared at the original scale?

Just trying to understand...
I think you may be right Murray. Sad result. Not prepared? San Juans have a lot of reefs and rock shoals which are all documented.
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Looking at the wreck relative to that point, man were they close!! I would not venture anywhere near such a point unless I was dang sure it was solid water below. Looks like a rookie move.
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Now there is a Go Fund Me for it. https://www.gofundme.com/f/john-wayn...rwester-rescue

"The Norwester, a beloved and historic 76-foot boat iconic to the Pacific Northwest, hit unmarked rocks near the San Juan Islands on April 17, 2021."

Unmarked? Yup. Uncharted. Nope.
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There are no unmarked rocks or shoals in the Puget Sound or San Juan Islands. Update or no update the rocks have never moved and I have never seen any raster or vector charts that were missing data in this area.

What I see all the time is people plotting courses at a high level and not realizing they just plotted over a reef. I make a point to review all my routes zoomed in just to make sure I don't fall victim to such a mistake.
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