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Old 12-02-2022, 12:35 PM   #1
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Rogue wave kills passenger.

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Old 12-02-2022, 12:48 PM   #2
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Was down there on the Nat Geo Polaris, small expeditionary ship with the zodiacs going ashore. This is the most beautiful part of the world but the most desolate. Read about Shackleton's adventures. Hard to believe they could survive for years under a lifeboat with a blubber stove on Elephant Island.
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Old 12-02-2022, 01:03 PM   #3
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Boy, I read lots of Melville but I must have forgotten, I had no idea there was such a thing as a blubber stove. Sure enough.
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Heck, breaking windows 30 feet above the waterline doesn't take a rogue wave.

The USCGC Glacier the year before I rode her to Antactica had a Higgins boat (36 foot landing craft) ripped off her storm tie down some 30 feet above the waterline.

The picture of the boat is the upper right one.

On one trip I was on, on the way to Dutch Harbor we had a bridge window 80 feet above the waterline punched out by green water.... did tens of thousands of dollars in damages to the foredeck equipment and injured one Coastie that had to be MEDEVACed to Anchorage when we landed. Not fun, neither was the damage and injury investigation I was assigned....

One just has to watch some you tube to see some angry seas.....
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Boy, I read lots of Melville but I must have forgotten, I had no idea there was such a thing as a blubber stove. Sure enough.

Reducing blubber was a closed system; whale parts were both the raw material and the fuel. On a three-year cruise, firewood got scarce pretty quickly.


Of course, in Shackleton's case, seals and penguins were the combustibles.
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Old 12-02-2022, 03:03 PM   #6
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I pride myself on being self sufficient but in Antarctic there is nothing to survive on. The convergence zone keeps all driftwood away. If you kill a penguin, you better eat it quick before it freezes. Can't even put in water to keep from freezing as water is 28 degrees. One of the most hostile places on earth but equally one of the most spectacular. We joked if you took "wow" out of our vocabulary down there, we would be speechless.
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Old 12-02-2022, 09:29 PM   #7
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I was just watching some videos of the Drake Passage, and the 'Drake Shake' doesn't looks like fun. The convergence of three oceans is always going to be treacherous.
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Now imagine Shackelton taking an open 30' lifeboat with a sail from Elephant Island to South Georgia Is. with 1890s foul Wx gear in that stuff! Amazing feat. Guy never makes it to Antarctica much less southpole and he is the most renown Antarctic explorer.
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To get the true Shackelton experience you have to land your whaleboat on the wrong side of the island and do some glacier mountaineering up and over to find "civilization". A real Adventure Holiday.
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Off topic but regarding the Shackleton expedition, a guy down the road has a bunch of books. One set is about the Shackleton expedition, written by SHACKLETON.
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Now imagine Shackelton taking an open 30' lifeboat with a sail from Elephant Island to South Georgia Is. with 1890s foul Wx gear in that stuff! Amazing feat. Guy never makes it to Antarctica much less southpole and he is the most renown Antarctic explorer.
Can you imagine the despair of those left behind as Shackelton sailed off to get help? Stuck on a small, cold rocky island in the middle of nowhere. The hope and faith in your captain but your gut telling you how unlikely the chances of success. And yet he didn't lose a single crew member. The story takes epic to a rarified level.
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Old 12-03-2022, 08:20 AM   #12
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It's an amazing survival story, yet a total failure as an expedition.
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Cnn has this about the Rogue wave in the Drake passage this week:
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On our expeditionary cruise, they allowed you off on a beach and you could trace a part of the trek across South Georgia Is that Shakelton took to the whaling station. Then they picked you up at the Whaling station. While waiting at the Whaling station, a woman fell and broke her hip. There is no medevac down there, our ship was the only way off the Island. 2 days to Falkland's for a medevac plane. She must have been in a lot of pain. You just can't describe how remote and bleak it is down there. But oh so beautiful.
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I am still having a hard time with the term "rogue" wave if the ship crossed Drake Passage during a storm.

Normal waves during a Drake Passage storm could have caused that kind of damage.

I might have missed it, but I haven't seen any "weather" reports including wind speeds and wave heights or at least ship observations during the storm.

Will be interesting if that French satellite (I think) that looks for rogue waves had any indications for that time period.
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I'm a bit surprised that those side windows aren't designed to take a direct hit.
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Ships that venture to Antactica or the high Arctic should be a bit more rugged than most. But if seas were 15 or so, I could see the captain taking them on the beam, then a 30 footer wrecks his day.
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Ships that venture to Antactica or the high Arctic should be a bit more rugged than most. But if seas were 15 or so, I could see the captain taking them on the beam, then a 30 footer wrecks his day.

Right but a 30 footer is a normal day down there.
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Right but a 30 footer is a normal day down there.
I crossed/operated in the Drake 6 times that year I was down there and each time I was fortunate to have very good conditions.. We flew (meaning could launch helos and that has to be very good conditions) most of a whole month near the South Orkney Islands. That was on the tiny 310 foot icebreaker USCGC Glacier (WAGB 4)...

We also flew around the entire Antarctic Peninsula another month going in and out of the US scientific station Palmer.

Summer can have some pretty decent weather...no one in their right mind stays down there for the winter. Ain't enough booze on that whole continent to really survive....
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Summer is great, have a picture of me comfortably in T shirt on the peninsula.
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