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Old 07-24-2020, 05:27 PM   #21
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Did you add a selection switch, or just let both work at the same time?

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The hailer lets you select which, it has a ton of features in it.
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Old 07-25-2020, 07:07 AM   #22
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The hailer lets you select which, it has a ton of features in it.
Ah. Thanks.

I think our radio would only select the generic "hailer" function, nothing further...

OTOH, I had two radios, so could maybe have added a rear hailer (horn) to the second radio... unless one radio would drive two horns at once... and if that didn't seem a bit goofy...

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Old 07-25-2020, 07:13 AM   #23
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Separate haulers have a few cool features...not so much the vhf radios with fog/hauler built in.

Mine also gas an intercom function which I have been meaning to use for bridge/salon comms.
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Old 07-25-2020, 09:59 AM   #24
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Mine also has an intercom function which I have been meaning to use for bridge/salon comms.
As does mine but it hasn't been used as much as I originally thought!
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No hailer on my boat (haven't found the need). As much as I avoid fog, I put in one of the $130-ish Fogmate controllers anyway while rewiring the helm switches last winter. It's cheap enough and I figure having automated fog horn capability is worthwhile. My existing trumpet horns are plenty loud and fairly distinct (3 tone), so even with a hailer, I'd probably use them for a fog signal.
Plus loud hailers generally are no where near as loud as my air horn.
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I thought every state had a basic license or certificate requirement for power boat 10hp or more.
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Plus loud hailers generally are no where near as loud as my air horn.
Have you ever had the need to blow your loud horn for 24 hours straight every 2 minutes due to running in fog? That is where a hailer with auto signals comes in handy. I didn’t have a programmed horn at the time.
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I thought every state had a basic license or certificate requirement for power boat 10hp or more.
Not all states, some have age grandfathering, some have partial requirements, etc...etc...


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I disagree. If someone was in fog and sounding a horn, I commend them. OK maybe not the correct number of blasts, but better that nothing. Those are the people you should condemn.
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I disagree. If someone was in fog and sounding a horn, I commend them. OK maybe not the correct number of blasts, but better that nothing. Those are the people you should condemn.


Well, neither is right. Partial credit? I'm not in favor. If you want to operate a boat, learn the forking rules. It's not rocket science. After all, everyone (mostly) learns how to drive a car and follow the rules.
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Have you ever had the need to blow your loud horn for 24 hours straight every 2 minutes due to running in fog? That is where a hailer with auto signals comes in handy. I didn’t have a programmed horn at the time.
My air horn is run by the FogMate. Since going to sea the first time in 1965, I have been in some fog. Try it when the steam fog horn is activated by a big lever over the helmsman's head and takes about 20 pounds to pull down. I never was in a 24-hour fog in all those years because at some point we progressed out of even if for just a few hours.
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Fog doesn’t stop commercial fishing of course. Old days there used to be a boat go down due to a collision on regular occasion. Horns blasting and all. Damn fog.
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I’ve got the icom 506 as well. Last time I was in thick fog, I used the fog setting. I do worry that it is not as loud as my horn. Funny thing is the local ferry boats have the deck crews posted on the car deck and they communicate to each other and their pilot using handheld vhf radios. So my icom scanning channels would lock on to their transmissions and I would hear “foghorn off the port bow” and such. After a couple episodes I noted that I’d hear the deck crew call out a moment after my fog horn sounded. Some amusing feedback that my foghorn was not just an ornament that day.
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Have you ever had the need to blow your loud horn for 24 hours straight every 2 minutes due to running in fog? That is where a hailer with auto signals comes in handy. I didn’t have a programmed horn at the time.
Not 24 hrs but it did seem endless. The owner was too cheap to pay for an automated system, we were a crew of 2 working 24 x 7 in the days before GPS & plotters so on watch alone. Sound the horn, check the radar, at 6 min intervals plot on the chart. No one is likely to loose situational awareness when working under those conditions.

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I’ve got the icom 506 as well. Last time I was in thick fog, I used the fog setting. I do worry that it is not as loud as my horn. Funny thing is the local ferry boats have the deck crews posted on the car deck and they communicate to each other and their pilot using handheld vhf radios. So my icom scanning channels would lock on to their transmissions and I would hear “foghorn off the port bow” and such. After a couple episodes I noted that I’d hear the deck crew call out a moment after my fog horn sounded. Some amusing feedback that my foghorn was not just an ornament that day.
I've been the bow watch on a car ferry. Capt said it's because bow watch is in a better position to hear. It sure seemed to be true. I could hear things before the wheel house crew did. Maybe it was because I was just a young pup and my hearing was still good.
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In addition to the fog horn my AIS is very helpful
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Not so in Canada. Anyone who operates a boat with any kind of motor is required to have a Pleasure Craft Operator Card (that you receive after passing a boating safety course), or other suitable proof of competency.
My ten yr. old nephew passed that test at the Toronto Boat show a couple of years ago. He had no boating experience and no study materials.
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My ten yr. old nephew passed that test at the Toronto Boat show a couple of years ago. He had no boating experience and no study materials.
Passing a written test does not mean a heck of a lot.
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Passing a written test does not mean a heck of a lot.
Yup, especially when it is as elementary as ours.
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