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Old 11-15-2023, 01:37 AM   #81
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In response to the UHF radio fire aboard the tanker, I made the following post, with a link to that story.

I've been recommending dedicated, flame retardant charging surfaces aboard my client's vessels for a couple of years. In this specific case, however, such a charging station may not have helped since the aflame radio flew meteor-like across the compartment. Preventing that would require a charging container.

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Portable Lithium Ion Battery Fire
Another portable lithium ion battery while charging fire. I implore owners to create flame and heat resistant charging surfaces for charging small LiIon batteries.
It's important to note, these are not the same chemistry as most lithium ion marine house batteries, which are lithium iron phosphate, or LFP.
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"To prevent thermal runaways and subsequent fires, the NTSB advises crews to follow manufacturers’ instructions for the care and maintenance of lithium-ion batteries, properly dispose of damaged batteries, avoid unsupervised charging, and keep batteries and chargers away from heat sources and flammable materials."


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Old 11-15-2023, 02:03 AM   #82
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Bing generated this AI response when I clicked on the "what caused the fire" tab. It is incorrect.

"The MV Conception was a 75-foot dive boat that caught fire and eventually sank off the coast of Santa Cruz Island, California, United States on September 2, 2019 1. The boat was anchored overnight at Platts Harbor, a small undeveloped bay on the island’s north shore, with 33 passengers and 1 crew member asleep below decks when a fire broke out shortly after 3 a.m. Five crew members, whose sleeping quarters were on the top deck, survived while everyone else on board died 1. The cause of the fire was determined to be from lithium-ion batteries that were being charged on the boat 2. The captain of the boat was found guilty of manslaughter in November 2023 34.

I am sorry for the tragic loss of life in this incident."

There's a good example of AI creating chaf from wheat.
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And with that the seed of, "it was caused by a lithium ion battery" misinformation is planted.
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Many people in the US have been on a steady of diet of misinformation and disinformation well before AI showed up.
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Too true. I've been inspired to write many articles because I read articles that were filled with misinformation.
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I believe nothing until verified and or tested.

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