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10-12-2016, 03:21 PM
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Boat capsized
Another reminder of the danger in overloading your boat, especially a flybridge.
There are reports of 30 people aboard a 34 foot cruiser at the San Francisco air show. It rolled over and sank within minutes. Very few if any lifejackets being worn. Luckily, no one died.
Here's a video of the ensuing chaos.
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10-12-2016, 03:30 PM
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34 foot ?? whats his secrete to such a clean bottom ???
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10-12-2016, 03:38 PM
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Looks like a 34 Silverton from the 1980's. Its just like this one...
http://www.soundingsonline.com/featu...-many-to-carry
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10-12-2016, 04:26 PM
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This type of thing happens way too often. I think some boat owners simply get complacent.
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10-12-2016, 05:09 PM
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But, 30 people on a 34 foot Silverton? I won't say what I'm thinking, however, it doesn't have much to do with complacency.
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10-12-2016, 05:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggitoni
But, 30 people on a 34 foot Silverton? I won't say what I'm thinking, however, it doesn't have much to do with complacency.
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Yeah, poor choice of words. I think what happens is that they are so used to their boat being a stable platform that they forget that it really is a boat that, given the right circumstances, can capsize. It wasn't so much that they thought that the boat would be fine with 30 on the FB, but that they didn't even consider it at all.
The lack of PFDs for everyone on board is entirely another matter altogether.
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10-12-2016, 05:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dhays
Yeah, poor choice of words. I think what happens is that they are so used to their boat being a stable platform that they forget that it really is a boat that, given the right circumstances, can capsize. It wasn't so much that they thought that the boat would be fine with 30 on the FB, but that they even consider it at all.
The lack of PFDs for everyone on board is entirely another matter altogether.
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Luckily, there were a zillion boats within PFD-throwing distance.
The fallout of this story will be one to watch as the reports are generated and fines levied. Stay tuned...
Edit: Thank goodness the four-year-old boy is ok.
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10-12-2016, 05:33 PM
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Can't fix stupid!
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10-12-2016, 05:43 PM
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I want to know if our insurance rates all go up now...
Does an insurance company have to pay on this?
Amazing!
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10-12-2016, 05:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by High Wire
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This looks like a story of an east coast sinking, not the capsized boat in SF Bay at the Saturday 10/8/16 Fleet Week SF Airshow. I did see another article that mentioned a 34 Silverton was involved in the SF Bay incident.
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10-12-2016, 06:19 PM
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Bet you dollars to donuts the boat's owner/skipper didn't have 30 PFDs aboard. ... He has too many friends/acquaintances which he invited aboard. ... Curious about the skipper's previous boating experience. ... His judgment is criminal. ... Another strike against flybridges.
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10-12-2016, 06:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by markpierce
Bet you dollars to donuts the boat's owner/skipper didn't have 30 PFDs aboard. ... He has too many friends/acquaintances which he invited aboard. ... Curious about the skipper's previous boating experience. ... His judgment is criminal. ... Another strike against flybridges.
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If the boat was steel it would have been on the bottom of the ocean in seconds another strike against steel boats
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10-12-2016, 07:28 PM
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Sorry, Gaston, but your comment is way out of line. This incident is a strike against stupidity. When someone is stupid enough to grossly overload a boat and change the center of gravity well beyond what the boat was ever designed to handle, this incident is what can result.
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10-12-2016, 07:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyWright
This looks like a story of an east coast sinking, not the capsized boat in SF Bay at the Saturday 10/8/16 Fleet Week SF Airshow. I did see another article that mentioned a 34 Silverton was involved in the SF Bay incident.
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Both boats overloaded up high, capsized and sunk at inshore events. Both boats happen to be mid 80s silverton 34's.
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10-12-2016, 07:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GFC
Sorry, Gaston, but your comment is way out of line. This incident is a strike against stupidity. When someone is stupid enough to grossly overload a boat and change the center of gravity well beyond what the boat was ever designed to handle, this incident is what can result.
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Whoaaah....not really....
Flybridge aren't the probkem...lack of sea sense is....as you pointed out.
Mark made a backhanded comment about flying bridges and Gaston responded in kind..
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10-12-2016, 07:39 PM
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Master and Commander
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Quote:
Originally Posted by psneeld
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Mark made a backhanded cmoment abut flying bridges and Gaston respoused in kind..
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yeah!
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10-12-2016, 07:48 PM
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Indeed, markpierce invited that.
It happened here, years ago an overloaded cruiser capsized in the harbour, children below drowned, the grandchildren of a Court interpreter I knew, an absolute gentleman. Truly awful, unnecessary, avoidable, I still remember sending him a sympathy card.
I wish people would learn, but human stupidity being what it is, not everyone can or will.
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10-12-2016, 07:57 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
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If anyone is interested, Seahorse Marine now offers a flybridge option for $11,500 on its Coot model.
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10-12-2016, 08:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by markpierce
If anyone is interested, Seahorse Marine now offers a flybridge option for $11,500 on its Coot model.
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OMG another 10 ton of steel would make it top heavy .One would need to paint the bottom yellow
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10-12-2016, 08:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gaston
OMG another 10 ton of steel would make it top heavy .One would need to paint the bottom yellow
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Seahorse Marine fly bridges are not steel. Just Sayin'
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