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Old 09-18-2023, 04:34 PM   #1
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Where is south enough

I searched before posting this to avoid a repeat question, but couldn't find anything related. Does anyone know how far south would I need to take my trawler to avoid having to haul it out on the hard for the winter? (In other words, to be able to keep it in the water for the winter.) I'm on the northern Mississippi up in Minnesota, well above the Illinois River connection north of St. Louis.
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Old 09-18-2023, 04:44 PM   #2
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The answer will be different on salt and fresh water, but, for what it's worth to you, we lived aboard Fintry in Boston Harbor for seven years with about 35 other live-aboard boats. Most of them had shrink wrap, but not all.


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Old 09-18-2023, 04:50 PM   #3
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Juneau would be fine.
Most skippers leave their boat in the water.
One great advantage there is that the sea water is quite a bit warmer than the air so keeping things from freezing in the boat is rather easy. I used a thermostatically controlled 750 watt 110v heater.

Tie your boat securely to float w plenty of fenders.
Expect numerous gales w winds about max 60 knots.
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Old 09-18-2023, 04:59 PM   #4
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It's a hike from the Mississippi to Alaska.
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Old 09-18-2023, 09:42 PM   #5
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For you it's Paducah, Memphis, or pretty much anywhere on the Tennessee River.

ETA: Grafton is open all winter as well.
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Old 09-19-2023, 05:35 AM   #6
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People wet store without winterizing in SC and no bubblers. From NC up if not in active use fresh water systems will need antifreeze or to be completely drained and blown dry. Bubblers aren’t usually needed for NC but maybe required at time from what I’m told. Bubblers or other mechanism to prevent ice damage seems definitely required required from NJ on up. Chesapeake can also get quite cold and ice up. Seems SC is the line where you can safely not worry about winterizing.
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Old 09-19-2023, 06:29 AM   #7
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Jule - are you planning to stay in the Mississippi Valley/tributaries?

I would guess different climate than coastal SE if just going by latitude, especially water temps.
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Just west of St Louis is St Charles. There are several nice marinas where boats are in the water year around. We kept a boat at Woodland Marina. The St Louis Yacht Club is good too. Our vessel was a 36' wooden Trojan with no bubblers with covered slips so no rain or snow on boat. We did winterize the vessel though.
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Just a couple years ago, Texas had a hard freeze that caused major damage. Every year is different.
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Heck.... I was off Nome, AK one February in 1984 and talking to my wife in Mobile, AL. It had been colder there for a couple days than it was where I was in the Arctic ice pack.

She reported a frenzy at Home depot and hardware stores being overrun by customers buying up PVC plumbing supplies.... even the city fountains were freezing up.

West of the Appalachians and down to the Gulf Coast can get a bit colder than the SE Atlantic coast...more importantly the cold snaps seem to last long enough to cause more issues.
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Thanks for all of the helpful information. We will eventually be looping on the boat but for now, we're deciding between winterizing and land storing it in MN until Spring splash or moving it south for the winter.
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When I grow up I want to move to an area like that.

The restrictions are
Far enough South that 98% of the time water will never turn solid
Far enough North that 98% of the time named events do not venture
Not on the Atlantic coast
And on navigable water

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The beauty of living aboard...go where it's best.
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Anywhere on the Gulf Coast. I'm in Aransas Pass, Texas now. 16 years in Louisiana on the Tickfaw River, fresh water, no barnacles, about a 3hour sail to New Orleans across Lake Pontchartrain. The gulf ICW goes thru there.
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No freeze and no hurricanes…
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When I grow up I want to move to an area like that.

The restrictions are
Far enough South that 98% of the time water will never turn solid
Far enough North that 98% of the time named events do not venture
Not on the Atlantic coast
And on navigable water

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