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Old 10-26-2021, 02:44 PM   #61
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Perhaps the best thing to do, before everyone goes crazy speculating (too late!), would be for someone to actually go to the restaurant, ask to speak to a manager, and appraise them of the situation, and ask them if there is any workaround, or if they even care that the marina policy may be driving clients away.

After all, the restaurant provides free parking to customers who drive/arrive at their restaurant via cars, perhaps they may be willing to make accommodations for customer who arrive at their restaurant via dingys.

Personally, for us, a $20.00 surcharge for "parking" in order to have the privilege of spending, say $60 to $80 for lunch would mean we would not patronize their establishment, but that's just us . . . . .
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Old 10-26-2021, 03:04 PM   #62
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Perhaps the marina determined the dinghy dock was getting too crowded and wanted to reduce the number of folks tied up or allow space for their members dinghy's. Was it getting loud and annoying folks who were berthed there.

We were at Block this summer and the dinghy's were 2/3 deep requiring you a huge hassle to get on and off, ended up having an oar broken by someone trying to get their dinghy out.

Perhaps asking the marina why the charge would give an explanation.

Also consider if you took a launch service up and back it would likely be $20.
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Old 10-26-2021, 03:14 PM   #63
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…before everyone goes crazy speculating…let’s speculate that the restaurant provides free parking to customers who drive/arrive at their restaurant via cars
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Perhaps the marina determined the dinghy dock was getting too crowded and wanted to reduce the number of folks tied up or allow space for their members dinghy's. Was it getting loud and annoying folks who were berthed there.
There is no designated dinghy dock at this marina and are actually very few dinghies that dock there as there are not a lot of anchorages in the area and no moorings. They used to allow people to use the transient dock space (if available) for temporary dockage of any small boat for dinner at Joseph's Italian restaurant. Sounds like now they are charging for that. There also used to be space at the end of the fairways but that has been turned into full time dockage now.
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Hmmm, maybe the resturant is satisfied with the local population and those who rent a slip???
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Old 10-26-2021, 04:02 PM   #66
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Hmmm, maybe the resturant is satisfied with the local population and those who rent a slip???
And those who will pay daily fees. The restaurant has no dock and has made no arrangement for dockage for their guests at the transient dock. The other restaurant there has a dock.
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There is no designated dinghy dock at this marina and are actually very few dinghies that dock there as there are not a lot of anchorages in the area and no moorings. They used to allow people to use the transient dock space (if available) for temporary dockage of any small boat for dinner at Joseph's Italian restaurant. Sounds like now they are charging for that. There also used to be space at the end of the fairways but that has been turned into full time dockage now.
Now we are getting somewhere; local knowledge.

My speculation is, the restaurant would shrug, toss the issue back to the marina and in the grand scheme of things, not miss the minimal number of dinghy diners.
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Old 10-26-2021, 04:17 PM   #68
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OK, so who is calling the restaurant? Lot of speculation from forum members here. Give them a call. gezzz 67 posts and no call?

I'm on the west coast so this doesn't apply to me.
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Well, if you are planning on spending $200 or more for the meal, what's the problem with $20 more?
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Old 10-26-2021, 05:30 PM   #71
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Well, if you are planning on spending $200 or more for the meal, what's the problem with $20 more?
That's the problem, one guy out to a probably reasonable restaurant might be $50 with a glass of wine and tip.

As someone said, a boat of 4 or 5 to a nicer place, sure.
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Well, if you are planning on spending $200 or more for the meal, what's the problem with $20 more?
And that's why things get silly in the world
Why not $50?
Why not $100?

It's like tipping culture
Parts of the world that have never heard of tipping and in the past would actually chase us down the street if you left small coin now, since "tippers" have been visiting expect it.

It has not helped the workers, the boss in many cases cut wages and staff in these lands ,in some cases now rely on tips

For the end user, there is no benifits, prices simply got more expensive.
We rarely visit touristy areas when overseas because of this
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So, for the record… Joseph’s is one of the nicer restaurants in the area and is always busy. Also, they don’t give a crap about boater access. It is barely a remainder in their overall business.

HOWEVER… the marina closes at 5p and the restaurant does not open until 5p. So does all this hoopla really amount to anything? I don’t think so. Let’s move in, shall we?
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I was being somewhat sarcastic.
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My boating bud in Boston told me 2 years ago the harbor restaurants were charging $20/Hr to dock and dine..
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So, for the record… Joseph’s is one of the nicer restaurants in the area and is always busy. Also, they don’t give a crap about boater access. It is barely a remainder in their overall business.

HOWEVER… the marina closes at 5p and the restaurant does not open until 5p. So does all this hoopla really amount to anything? I don’t think so. Let’s move in, shall we?
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So, for the record… Joseph’s is one of the nicer restaurants in the area and is always busy. Also, they don’t give a crap about boater access. It is barely a remainder in their overall business.

HOWEVER… the marina closes at 5p and the restaurant does not open until 5p. So does all this hoopla really amount to anything? I don’t think so. Let’s move in, shall we?
Ah, so now I'm thinking OC Diver's work around was to wait until 5p, tie up, climb the fence and dine happily after seven.
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One thing I'd like to add to the thread. The regional managers of Safe Harbor are available by phone and the one time I called one he was gracious enough to answer a very pointed question I asked.
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I think Safe Harbor has some kind of membership "thingy" available. I wonder if someone with a membership would have to pay that amount. Perhaps less or free?
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Then go. No harm no foul.

If the restaurant feels harmed they will figure something out. Let the market forces do their work.
At some point, the restaurant will either do a voucher system to validate dinghy parking and a negotiated rate with the marina, or perhaps offer a pickup / drop off service for dinner guests... Sort of a dinghy uber service for their patrons.
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