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Old 08-21-2020, 08:42 AM   #81
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well big boy, how about we pit your bad-ass tug against my little rocket. Wonder who would win in a tug-of-war

I'm taking bets now.

Nice ride, do you own it? Can't compete with non owners
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Old 08-21-2020, 11:05 AM   #82
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Bartender boats..... Most are wood but thee are some alloy hulls out there.
I haven't heard that term before. What is a "bartender" boat?
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Nice ride, do you own it? Can't compete with non owners
I suppose all of us tax-payers own it. I get to help launch it but unfortunately will never get to ride in it. Still a big thrill though
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Old 08-21-2020, 11:32 AM   #84
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Mako,
Bartender boats are a light plywood boat about 20’ normal in every way but they are pointy at both ends.

They call them “double enders” but they have a straight run aft and are definitely planing hulls. Probably rough riding as they are quite flat on the bottom but I think they have some benefit from being pointy in the stern in following seas and similar conditions.
Nice looking boats especially the hull lines.
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Old 08-21-2020, 11:32 AM   #85
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I haven't heard that term before. What is a "bartender" boat?
bartenderboats.com

a boat brand that sells plans for wooden boats.

Here is an example of 22ft AL hull. I think it is listed for sale elsewhere

https://www.facebook.com/bartenderbo...7875011719891/
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Old 08-21-2020, 11:37 AM   #86
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Dan,
I think the designer named that design “Bartender” and many were built by various boat yards. “Bartender” is not a brand. To the best of my knowledge.
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The original Bartender was a George Calkins design. It is a fast, light-weight, double-ended, self-bailing, planing, surf dory style of boat. Bartender is a registered trademark.

https://bartenderboats.com/

https://www.tadroberts.ca/services/s.../timbercoast22

Was on my short list of boats to build when I thought I wanted to build a bat.
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All I can say is WOW!
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I’m not sure what to call ours . It was built as a commercial fishing boat with nets and outriggers. Now it’s retired. I call it a trawler but not sure what is.
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Wow, now show us the monster props!
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Old 08-23-2020, 08:40 AM   #91
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Vancouver BC got their new tugs from Sanmar


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These are harbour tugs. We operate tows on open ocean. Still an interesting video
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Welcome aboard. Sorry for all the worthless responses. I have a 2002 32í Nordic Tug. It was the first model to have the built-in swim step but before a few minor v-berth mods. I think it was later called a 32+2 then eventually a 34. Enough about that. I love the tug but they, I should say mine, has a few things to take into consideration. 1. How big you are and agile/flexible. I suggest you Lie down in the v-berth. I am only 5í9Ē, 150 lbs and extremely flexible. I find it pretty cramped but livable. Much taller or heavier person, I think, would find it miserable. B. Steps - 3 steps from cockpit into saloon. Depending on your stature this can be a real head knocker. When I first got the boat I almost had to have stitches when I bumped my head. I learned but a taller person may have issues. The steps leading down into the v-berth are steep narrow. Narrow in the fact the treads are narrow front to back and some time your foot wants to slide off. Yep, did that too. I go down them sideways.
Now for the head. The door is narrow but what bare feet have to worry about is the bottom of the door is raised 11 inches from the floor. Squeezing through the narrow door and stepping high is not natural and must be a learned talent. Toes can pay the price. Yep did that too.
Before leaving the v-berth I should point out that the mattress with topper is 37Ē high. I donít have much of a problem but my wife, at 5í4Ē must use a stool. A stool in a very small floor space which limits access to the drawers. The stool also creates a tripping hazard especially during those night runs. Yep did that too.
The engine bay is very nice and access panels allow one to avoid head knockers and light. Still tight but by boat standards I think exceptional!
The most important thing to consider, after you physical limitations is what will the boat be used for. For long distant travel to remote locations and anchoring out. I consider mine a 3 out of 10. Why? Not enough storage, not enough water, no generator, no solar power just to name a few. Of course I could add all that stuff. I could put a generator in the engine bay! Then the engine compartment becomes a nightmare and and I would have to hire a midget to service it. I could put a portable generator in the cockpit! There goes the only sitting area on the boat and becomes a CO producing noise maker.
Some store all on top of the saloon. Putting weight up high and poking screw holes in the roof is nothing I want to do. Besides, where would the kayaks and solar panels go?
For puttering around the islands this is a great boat. For living aboard even in a marina it is not good, For long isolated trips. I consider it a poor choice. For a tall or obese person(s) it would be a horrible decision.
I didnít mention how wet a ride it is. Itís not an issue that is painful. Actually we we think it adds some excitement to our videos.
We love the boat! We plan on taking it from Washington to Whittier Alaska. That is something we want to do and that is the boat we have. At 74 you do the best you can with what you got.
Hope in a weird way this helps.
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FCKW verboten wurden

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Old 08-23-2020, 02:43 PM   #95
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Iím not sure what to call ours . It was built as a commercial fishing boat with nets and outriggers. Now itís retired. I call it a trawler but not sure what is.
Cool boat Marty.
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Old 08-24-2020, 12:58 PM   #96
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I’m not sure what to call ours . It was built as a commercial fishing boat with nets and outriggers. Now it’s retired. I call it a trawler but not sure what is.
That would be a troller. George Buehler designed most of his vessels on the troller concept. The problem is they need to have the stabilizers.
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