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01-14-2015, 10:01 PM
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Guru
City: Tavernier, FL
Vessel Name: Volans
Vessel Model: 2001 PDQ MV 32
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 580
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Torn between two boats
We are looking at two very different boats as our first liveaboard. One is a mainship 40 (1981) and the other is an albin 36 (1978). Both in great condition and similarly priced. The Albin lends itself to leaving the dock more and going on more adventures but the Mainship seems like a more comfortable home.
Can we just get both?!
Either way, we are looking forward to some time on the water this year.
Thanks to the mods/creators for such a great resource
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01-14-2015, 10:24 PM
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Guru
City: Hailing Port: Charleston, SC
Vessel Name: Moonstruck
Vessel Model: Sabre 42 Hardtop Express
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 8,276
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Welcome, Gabe and Em. I don't mean to be flippant, but if you keep waiting the choice will be down to one. If they are both in the condition you represented someone will snatch them up. Whatever you do, please keep us in the loop. It will be interesting to see your final choice and why.
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01-15-2015, 03:37 AM
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Dauntless Award
City: Wrangell, Alaska
Vessel Name: Dauntless
Vessel Model: Kadey Krogen 42 - 148
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 2,816
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonstruck
Welcome, Gabe and Em. I don't mean to be flippant, but if you keep waiting the choice will be down to one. If they are both in the condition you represented someone will snatch them up. Whatever you do, please keep us in the loop. It will be interesting to see your final choice and why.
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Exactly. Sometimes no decision is a decision.
I also think it's possible that the answer is neither.
Usually when I have trouble pulling the trigger, it's only later I understand why and am almost always very grateful  .
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01-15-2015, 05:18 AM
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Guru
City: Sarasota,FL/Thomasville,GA
Vessel Name: Steppin Stone IV
Vessel Model: Marine Trader Kelly Trawler 46
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,815
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Welcome
It also may be that the answer is in your question
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01-15-2015, 06:18 AM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 16,245
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Greetings,
Welcome aboard.
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01-15-2015, 06:49 AM
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Guru
City: Fort Myers, FL... Summers in the Great Lakes
Vessel Name: Slow Hand
Vessel Model: Cherubini Independence 45
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,458
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Not saying either isn't right for you, but hopefully the right boat is like finding your spouse. It's shouldn't be a choice between 2, but more "this is the one!"............for now.
Ted
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01-15-2015, 06:54 AM
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TF Site Team/Forum Founder
City: League City, Tx
Vessel Name: Floatsome & Jetsome
Vessel Model: Meridian 411
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 7,305
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If your goal is to be on the water...then get the one that will facilitate that the best!! And it sounds like you already know which one. Also be careful about curbside appeal. I realize you have to like the appearance of your boat. But if you are buying it based on appearance, then you might be in for a bad time.....kinda like choosing a spouse...
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01-15-2015, 07:35 AM
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City: gulf coast
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 3,440
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Get the one the wife likes. There can't be much difference in leaving the dock unless access forward is poor.
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01-15-2015, 07:52 AM
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Guru
City: Tavernier, FL
Vessel Name: Volans
Vessel Model: 2001 PDQ MV 32
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 580
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Thanks for all the feedback guys, theres a lot of good ideas here.
Moonstruck, the only hitch is I(Gabe) haven't seen the Mainship yet and cant get back (due to work) for another 10 days! We are going to stop in on both of them (praying they're both still there) the day I get back. We are primed to pull the trigger within 24 hours after.
O C Diver: The problem is we've each had our "Aha!" moments, they were just on two different boats. As in all of life, it will be a compromise but finally, I dont believe either will be a bad option, just different strengths
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01-15-2015, 08:19 AM
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Guru
City: Punta Gorda, FL
Vessel Name: Aweigh
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 42
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 628
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I owned a 1979 Albin 33', which is just a tab smaller than the 36. One of my buddies had a 1980 Mainship 40 that I spent a lot of time on. The Albin was single engine and the Mainship had twins.
If you want to live aboard, you will never have a comfortable place to sit and relax on the Albin. Dinettes are not suitable for anything but dining, IMHO. The Taiwanese built Albins are notorious leakers through the teak decks. Other than the stained interior and the lack of a place to prop one's feet up and relax, they are tough boats.
My friend on the Mainship had room for a small recliner and no exterior teak to worry about refinishing or leaking. He lived aboard for several years with no complaints.
In the coin flip for a live aboard boat I would go with the Mainship.
My current boat is a US built Albin which is a totally different boat the the one you guys are considering.
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01-15-2015, 12:54 PM
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Guru
City: Seabrook, Texas
Vessel Name: Small World
Vessel Model: Defever 50
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 611
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bayview
Get the one the wife likes.
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Very very wise answer.
That will get you on the water more and make your time onboard in the slip much more pleasant.
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01-15-2015, 02:06 PM
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Guru
City: Beverly Hills
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 1,371
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Welcome, the saying is that "the boat picks you" if that's not happening maybe you should continue the search.
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01-15-2015, 04:21 PM
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Guru
City: Hotel, CA
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 8,323
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HiDHo
Welcome, the saying is that "the boat picks you" if that's not happening maybe you should continue the search.
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Gotta admit when folks told me this before buying our boat I thought it was a load of BS. Having been through the process I'm 100% convinced that it is true. If neither of these boats chose you, and you'd know it, keep looking as soon enough one will.
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01-15-2015, 04:40 PM
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 13,042
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Put the plus and minus points for each boat on paper (for oldies) or on a screen. Seeing it that way often helps clarify the choice between 2 courses of action. See if it helps.
If not, could be both are equally suitable, and it doesn`t matter which you choose.
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2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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01-15-2015, 09:33 PM
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Senior Member
City: Maryville, TN
Vessel Name: malu lani
Vessel Model: Albin 27 FC
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 106
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Seasalt and Bayview are both wise men. I lived on a 44 MT for several years and always regretted the lousy sitting accommodations. Dinettes are NOT a place to relax. The most comfortable boats to live on in this size range are the sedan trawlers IMHO. Ben
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01-15-2015, 09:40 PM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 16,245
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Greetings,
Buy them both then sell the one you don't like...
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01-15-2015, 11:27 PM
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Senior Member
City: Knoxville
Vessel Name: Pura Vida
Vessel Model: 08 Meridian 490 Pilothouse
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 316
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Welcome
All boats are a compromise, take your time.
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01-26-2015, 07:30 AM
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Guru
City: Tavernier, FL
Vessel Name: Volans
Vessel Model: 2001 PDQ MV 32
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 580
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Well, I'm sure you've all been on the edge of your seat as we have been for the last two weeks but we finally decided (and had our offer accepted yesterday!) for the Mainship!
We saw both boats in the same day and the amount of living space was one decider - the other was the value. The Mainship was less expensive, in better condition, and younger by a few years.
I(Gabe) still think the Albins are a little more pleasing on the eyes and definitely more fuel efficient but ALL uses of the boat had to be considered. Not just looks
Stay tuned for survey results but we are looking to liveaboard and need to keep the ball rolling. Any suggestions for marinas on kent island? We liked Mears and Castle harbor but thought piney narrows was too loud with the bridge right there.
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01-26-2015, 08:51 AM
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Guru
City: LI or Fla
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,148
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Congrat's, all the best!
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01-30-2015, 03:25 AM
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Senior Member
City: Beaufort, NC
Vessel Name: Legacy
Vessel Model: Ocean Alexander 48E
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 124
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I've never seen a boat I didn't like. My wife says a broker could make a living on just selling me boats.
Enjoy!
Steelydon
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