Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 01-14-2015, 10:01 PM   #1
Guru
 
Gabe n Em's Avatar
 
City: Tavernier, FL
Vessel Name: Volans
Vessel Model: 2001 PDQ MV 32
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 580
Torn between two boats

We are looking at two very different boats as our first liveaboard. One is a mainship 40 (1981) and the other is an albin 36 (1978). Both in great condition and similarly priced. The Albin lends itself to leaving the dock more and going on more adventures but the Mainship seems like a more comfortable home.

Can we just get both?!

Either way, we are looking forward to some time on the water this year.

Thanks to the mods/creators for such a great resource
Gabe n Em is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2015, 10:24 PM   #2
Guru
 
Moonstruck's Avatar
 
City: Hailing Port: Charleston, SC
Vessel Name: Moonstruck
Vessel Model: Sabre 42 Hardtop Express
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 8,276
Welcome, Gabe and Em. I don't mean to be flippant, but if you keep waiting the choice will be down to one. If they are both in the condition you represented someone will snatch them up. Whatever you do, please keep us in the loop. It will be interesting to see your final choice and why.
__________________
Don on Moonstruck
Sabre 42 Hardtop Express
When cruising life is simpler, but on a grander scale (author unknown)
https://moonstruckblog.wordpress.com/
Moonstruck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2015, 03:37 AM   #3
Dauntless Award
 
Wxx3's Avatar
 
City: Wrangell, Alaska
Vessel Name: Dauntless
Vessel Model: Kadey Krogen 42 - 148
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 2,816
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonstruck View Post
Welcome, Gabe and Em. I don't mean to be flippant, but if you keep waiting the choice will be down to one. If they are both in the condition you represented someone will snatch them up. Whatever you do, please keep us in the loop. It will be interesting to see your final choice and why.
Exactly. Sometimes no decision is a decision.

I also think it's possible that the answer is neither.

Usually when I have trouble pulling the trigger, it's only later I understand why and am almost always very grateful.
__________________
Richard on Dauntless,
New York

a Kadey Krogen 42 currently: https://share.garmin.com/dauntless
Blog:
https://dauntlessatsea.com
Wxx3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2015, 05:18 AM   #4
Guru
 
siestakey's Avatar
 
City: Sarasota,FL/Thomasville,GA
Vessel Name: Steppin Stone IV
Vessel Model: Marine Trader Kelly Trawler 46
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,815
Welcome

It also may be that the answer is in your question
siestakey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2015, 06:18 AM   #5
Enigma
 
RT Firefly's Avatar
 
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 16,245
Greetings,
Welcome aboard.
__________________
RTF
RT Firefly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2015, 06:49 AM   #6
Guru
 
O C Diver's Avatar
 
City: Fort Myers, FL... Summers in the Great Lakes
Vessel Name: Slow Hand
Vessel Model: Cherubini Independence 45
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,458
Not saying either isn't right for you, but hopefully the right boat is like finding your spouse. It's shouldn't be a choice between 2, but more "this is the one!"............for now.

Ted
__________________
Blog: mvslowhand.com
I'm tired of fast moves, I've got a slow groove, on my mind.....
I want to spend some time, Not come and go in a heated rush.....
"Slow Hand" by The Pointer Sisters
O C Diver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2015, 06:54 AM   #7
TF Site Team/Forum Founder
 
Baker's Avatar
 
City: League City, Tx
Vessel Name: Floatsome & Jetsome
Vessel Model: Meridian 411
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 7,305
If your goal is to be on the water...then get the one that will facilitate that the best!! And it sounds like you already know which one. Also be careful about curbside appeal. I realize you have to like the appearance of your boat. But if you are buying it based on appearance, then you might be in for a bad time.....kinda like choosing a spouse...
__________________
Prairie 29...Perkins 4236...Sold
Mainship Pilot 30...Yanmar 4LHA-STP...Sold
Carver 356...T-Cummins 330B...Sold
Meridian 411...T-Cummins 450C
Baker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2015, 07:35 AM   #8
Guru
 
City: gulf coast
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 3,440
Get the one the wife likes. There can't be much difference in leaving the dock unless access forward is poor.
bayview is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2015, 07:52 AM   #9
Guru
 
Gabe n Em's Avatar
 
City: Tavernier, FL
Vessel Name: Volans
Vessel Model: 2001 PDQ MV 32
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 580
Thanks for all the feedback guys, theres a lot of good ideas here.

Moonstruck, the only hitch is I(Gabe) haven't seen the Mainship yet and cant get back (due to work) for another 10 days! We are going to stop in on both of them (praying they're both still there) the day I get back. We are primed to pull the trigger within 24 hours after.

O C Diver: The problem is we've each had our "Aha!" moments, they were just on two different boats. As in all of life, it will be a compromise but finally, I dont believe either will be a bad option, just different strengths
Gabe n Em is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2015, 08:19 AM   #10
Guru
 
seasalt007's Avatar
 
City: Punta Gorda, FL
Vessel Name: Aweigh
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 42
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 628
I owned a 1979 Albin 33', which is just a tab smaller than the 36. One of my buddies had a 1980 Mainship 40 that I spent a lot of time on. The Albin was single engine and the Mainship had twins.

If you want to live aboard, you will never have a comfortable place to sit and relax on the Albin. Dinettes are not suitable for anything but dining, IMHO. The Taiwanese built Albins are notorious leakers through the teak decks. Other than the stained interior and the lack of a place to prop one's feet up and relax, they are tough boats.

My friend on the Mainship had room for a small recliner and no exterior teak to worry about refinishing or leaking. He lived aboard for several years with no complaints.

In the coin flip for a live aboard boat I would go with the Mainship.

My current boat is a US built Albin which is a totally different boat the the one you guys are considering.
seasalt007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2015, 12:54 PM   #11
Guru
 
Drake's Avatar
 
City: Seabrook, Texas
Vessel Name: Small World
Vessel Model: Defever 50
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 611
Quote:
Originally Posted by bayview View Post
Get the one the wife likes.
Very very wise answer.

That will get you on the water more and make your time onboard in the slip much more pleasant.
Drake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2015, 02:06 PM   #12
Guru
 
HiDHo's Avatar
 
City: Beverly Hills
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 1,371
Welcome, the saying is that "the boat picks you" if that's not happening maybe you should continue the search.
HiDHo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2015, 04:21 PM   #13
Guru
 
City: Hotel, CA
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 8,323
Quote:
Originally Posted by HiDHo View Post
Welcome, the saying is that "the boat picks you" if that's not happening maybe you should continue the search.
Gotta admit when folks told me this before buying our boat I thought it was a load of BS. Having been through the process I'm 100% convinced that it is true. If neither of these boats chose you, and you'd know it, keep looking as soon enough one will.
__________________
Craig

It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled - Mark Twain
CPseudonym is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2015, 04:40 PM   #14
Guru
 
BruceK's Avatar
 
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 13,042
Put the plus and minus points for each boat on paper (for oldies) or on a screen. Seeing it that way often helps clarify the choice between 2 courses of action. See if it helps.
If not, could be both are equally suitable, and it doesn`t matter which you choose.
__________________
BruceK
2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
BruceK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2015, 09:33 PM   #15
Senior Member
 
City: Maryville, TN
Vessel Name: malu lani
Vessel Model: Albin 27 FC
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 106
Seasalt and Bayview are both wise men. I lived on a 44 MT for several years and always regretted the lousy sitting accommodations. Dinettes are NOT a place to relax. The most comfortable boats to live on in this size range are the sedan trawlers IMHO. Ben
tego is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2015, 09:40 PM   #16
Enigma
 
RT Firefly's Avatar
 
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 16,245
Greetings,
Buy them both then sell the one you don't like...
?
__________________
RTF
RT Firefly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2015, 11:27 PM   #17
Senior Member
 
Pura Vida's Avatar
 
City: Knoxville
Vessel Name: Pura Vida
Vessel Model: 08 Meridian 490 Pilothouse
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 316
Welcome
All boats are a compromise, take your time.
Pura Vida is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2015, 07:30 AM   #18
Guru
 
Gabe n Em's Avatar
 
City: Tavernier, FL
Vessel Name: Volans
Vessel Model: 2001 PDQ MV 32
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 580
Well, I'm sure you've all been on the edge of your seat as we have been for the last two weeks but we finally decided (and had our offer accepted yesterday!) for the Mainship!

We saw both boats in the same day and the amount of living space was one decider - the other was the value. The Mainship was less expensive, in better condition, and younger by a few years.

I(Gabe) still think the Albins are a little more pleasing on the eyes and definitely more fuel efficient but ALL uses of the boat had to be considered. Not just looks

Stay tuned for survey results but we are looking to liveaboard and need to keep the ball rolling. Any suggestions for marinas on kent island? We liked Mears and Castle harbor but thought piney narrows was too loud with the bridge right there.
Gabe n Em is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2015, 08:51 AM   #19
Guru
 
City: LI or Fla
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,148
Congrat's, all the best!
Marlinmike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2015, 03:25 AM   #20
Senior Member
 
steelydon's Avatar
 
City: Beaufort, NC
Vessel Name: Legacy
Vessel Model: Ocean Alexander 48E
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 124
I've never seen a boat I didn't like. My wife says a broker could make a living on just selling me boats.


Enjoy!


Steelydon
steelydon is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Trawler Port Captains
Port Captains are TF volunteers who can serve as local guides or assist with local arrangements and information. Search below to locate Port Captains near your destination. To learn more about this program read here: TF Port Captain Program





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:24 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2023, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2006 - 2012