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04-29-2020, 09:58 PM
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Member
City: Houston
Vessel Name: HONU
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 42 Classic
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 21
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That makes perfect sense. I had already scratched my head as to why only one bolt in the center was holding the cap on. It seems like a recipe for a leak. I was working toward the decision to open up the heat exchangers already after musing over that picture a bit. I snapped it just to be a reference for that pondering session. I have read up on the process a bit, but will peruse the manual this weekend and order the gaskets. I may or may not have some in the on-board spares but even if I do, I will need to replace them. I was not impressed by my view down the holes when the zincs were removed.
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05-08-2020, 12:49 PM
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#22
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Newbie
City: Galesville, MD
Vessel Name: CARAPAN
Vessel Model: GB42 Classic
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 1
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Long.lost.brother?
Welcome aboard Shipmate, your story is so eerily similar that you might be my alter ego! Bought my GB42 Classic 3yrs ago. Still active Navy, 30+yrs and going...
I saw that HX verdigris snap and had same issue. Isolated intake, Pulled end cap, refurb'd gasket, pipe-cleanered the tubes while I was in there and sealed with non-binding aviation gasket lube. Not a drip of green since. John Deere's?
Cheers, Cap'n Jake
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05-08-2020, 12:57 PM
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#23
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Member
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 8
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Welcome Aboard
We too own a Grand Banks, a 1989 46’ that we try to keep looking new.
We also own and manage a not for profit organization, Boatwatch.org, whose mission is to assist in the search for overdue and missing vessels worldwide.
Check out our website sometime. I would enjoy chatting about your GB.
Glenn
941-456-5070
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05-08-2020, 01:16 PM
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#24
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Guru
City: Southport, FL near Panama City
Vessel Name: FROLIC
Vessel Model: Mainship 30 Pilot II since 2015. GB-42 1986-2015. Former Unlimited Tonnage Master
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,700
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Choices
There are a lot of GBs around you. Welcome.
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One of the GB42s near you at the Galveston YC Marina is my old Calypso (still bears the name). So you have stabilizers, you say? Can you expound on them?
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Rich Gano
FROLIC (2005 MainShip 30 Pilot II)
Panama City area
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05-08-2020, 01:31 PM
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#25
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Senior Member
City: Matagorda Bay
Vessel Name: Salty
Vessel Model: 2005 Defever 44
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 227
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Welcome aboard from a day's cruise down the coast! (Matagorda)
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Fair winds,
Luke
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05-08-2020, 03:23 PM
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Guru
City: Fleming Island, Fl
Vessel Name: Sakura Perdido
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 36 Classic
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 629
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Permission
Quote:
Originally Posted by HONUHYC
I have owned my Grand Banks 42 Classic almost a year now and am wondering why I am just now joining this forum, which I have searched for advice on numerous occasions. I am a do-it-yourselfer and have been slowly learning the intricacies of the various systems aboard and have gotten a pretty good feel for handling the boat at this point. We spend more time in the slip than underway, but I enjoy every minute regardless. Well, when my head is bleeding from whacking the overhead in the engine room is not enjoyable, but I got me a fancy bump cap and now, every time I whack it on the overhead, I think to myself that I have prevented yet another split scalp, and that is somewhat satisfying.
From the time my family moved back to the Houston area from El Paso when I was 3, I have loved being on or near the water. I am a maritime lawyer by background, but for the last 15+ years have been an executive with a domestic marine transportation company. I served 21 years in the Naval Reserve as an intelligence officer. I have always wanted a trawler and had the opportunity to purchase a well maintained and equipped Grand Banks 42 Classic from a fellow club member (I think I am the fourth member of the club to own her). So, now I am a happy camper. My lament is that I cannot get enough time away from work to go anywhere exciting, but I can still dream of the day I can take a longer trip. The COVID-19 situation has demonstrated that I can continue to work and not be in the office, so maybe I can cut loose sometime soon.
My wife is a good sport and has found that patches, ginger and other remedies keep her seasickness at bay. She has taken to updating the curtains, pillows and other necessaries while I have been fiddling with more trivial items like zincs, seacocks, pumps and wiring. Together, we make a petty good team.
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Welcome aboard. Where do you keep your boat? What is your hull number and where was it built? My 36 is #712, built in Singapore.
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05-08-2020, 04:34 PM
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Member
City: Houston
Vessel Name: HONU
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 42 Classic
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant
Welcome aboard. Where do you keep your boat? What is your hull number and where was it built? My 36 is #712, built in Singapore.
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Mine is 660, also from Singapore. I keep her in Houston at the Houston Yacht Club.
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05-08-2020, 04:39 PM
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#28
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Member
City: Houston
Vessel Name: HONU
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 42 Classic
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Jake
Welcome aboard Shipmate, your story is so eerily similar that you might be my alter ego! Bought my GB42 Classic 3yrs ago. Still active Navy, 30+yrs and going...
I saw that HX verdigris snap and had same issue. Isolated intake, Pulled end cap, refurb'd gasket, pipe-cleanered the tubes while I was in there and sealed with non-binding aviation gasket lube. Not a drip of green since. John Deere's?
Cheers, Cap'n Jake
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Not John Deeres. They are Ford Lehman 120s. Normally red, but some that were marinized at the Grand Banks factory were painted gold. That is the story I have heard, so I am sticking with it. I would prefer the red myself but as long as I can buy duplicolor universal gold engine paint, I guess I am OK.
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05-08-2020, 04:45 PM
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#29
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Guru
City: Mississippi
Vessel Name: ADAGIO
Vessel Model: CHB Present 42 Sundeck
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 908
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That 'domestic marine transportation company' where you work wouldn't happen to be Dixie Marine? If so I was formerly one of your bankers - back in the early to mid 90's. I was head of our transportation finance dept - trains, boats and planes - fun times.
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05-08-2020, 04:45 PM
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#30
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Member
City: Houston
Vessel Name: HONU
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 42 Classic
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rgano
One of the GB42s near you at the Galveston YC Marina is my old Calypso (still bears the name). So you have stabilizers, you say? Can you expound on them?
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They are Naiad hydraulic tab stablizers. They work well to eliminate rolling while underway. Does that answer your question?
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05-08-2020, 04:49 PM
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Member
City: Houston
Vessel Name: HONU
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 42 Classic
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxtrotCharlie
That 'domestic marine transportation company' where you work wouldn't happen to be Dixie Marine? If so I was formerly one of your bankers - back in the early to mid 90's. I was head of our transportation finance dept - trains, boats and planes - fun times.
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That is one of the heritage companies under our umbrella, but we are known by the parent corporate name now.
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05-08-2020, 04:58 PM
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#32
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Guru
City: .
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 437
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Parrothedd
We too own a Grand Banks, a 1989 46’ that we try to keep looking new.
We also own and manage a not for profit organization, Boatwatch.org, whose mission is to assist in the search for overdue and missing vessels worldwide.
Check out our website sometime. I would enjoy chatting about your GB.
Glenn
941-456-5070
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Your organization Boatwatch.org is amazing. Founded in 2001 !
Congratulations & good luck
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05-08-2020, 05:37 PM
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#33
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Guru
City: Southport, FL near Panama City
Vessel Name: FROLIC
Vessel Model: Mainship 30 Pilot II since 2015. GB-42 1986-2015. Former Unlimited Tonnage Master
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,700
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HONUHYC
They are Naiad hydraulic tab stablizers. They work well to eliminate rolling while underway. Does that answer your question?
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Quite, thank you.
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Rich Gano
FROLIC (2005 MainShip 30 Pilot II)
Panama City area
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05-08-2020, 05:56 PM
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#34
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Guru
City: Southport, FL near Panama City
Vessel Name: FROLIC
Vessel Model: Mainship 30 Pilot II since 2015. GB-42 1986-2015. Former Unlimited Tonnage Master
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,700
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HONUHYC
Not John Deeres. They are Ford Lehman 120s. Normally red, but some that were marinized at the Grand Banks factory were painted gold. That is the story I have heard, so I am sticking with it. I would prefer the red myself but as long as I can buy duplicolor universal gold engine paint, I guess I am OK.
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Here's the color the FL120s were painted circa 1972 on my GB 42 hull 295 built Hong Kong.
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Rich Gano
FROLIC (2005 MainShip 30 Pilot II)
Panama City area
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05-08-2020, 07:19 PM
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Guru
City: .
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 437
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rgano
Here's the color the FL120s were painted circa 1972 on my GB 42 hull 295 built Hong Kong.
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Clean engine room !
Built Hong Kong so she was a woody.
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05-08-2020, 09:14 PM
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#36
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Guru
City: Southport, FL near Panama City
Vessel Name: FROLIC
Vessel Model: Mainship 30 Pilot II since 2015. GB-42 1986-2015. Former Unlimited Tonnage Master
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,700
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pilou
Clean engine room !
Built Hong Kong so she was a woody.
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And a dry bilge!
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Rich Gano
FROLIC (2005 MainShip 30 Pilot II)
Panama City area
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05-10-2020, 09:53 AM
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#37
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Senior Member
City: Detroit
Join Date: Jun 2019
Posts: 264
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Welcome to TF! During your first year on the forum you will need to agree with everything I post and send me money each month as a token of your appreciation. In the alternative, having your boat delivered to my marina for my use would be acceptable.
Nice GB! Welcome. This place is an incredible resource. Bill
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05-10-2020, 11:40 AM
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#38
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Guru
City: hawaii
Vessel Name: #31
Vessel Model: ex-Navy MUB 50 fish/cruise
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 816
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Those heat exchanger caps rely on crown to seal around the edges, and caps can get flattened out from over tightening.
You can carefully work some crown back into them with a ball peen hammer.
Reinstall with new gaskets, Tony Athens recommendation is to use Rector Seal #5 to insure seal. Don’t overtighten when reinstalling!
New heat exchanger gaskets are an annual maintenance item on my boat, along with raw water impellers.
That may be overkill, but I see it as cheap insurance!
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You can lead a horse to water,
But you can't make him ski...
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05-10-2020, 08:20 PM
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#39
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Member
City: Houston
Vessel Name: HONU
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 42 Classic
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moparharn
Welcome to TF! During your first year on the forum you will need to agree with everything I post and send me money each month as a token of your appreciation. In the alternative, having your boat delivered to my marina for my use would be acceptable.
Nice GB! Welcome. This place is an incredible resource. Bill
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I grovel in your general direction, sir!
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05-10-2020, 08:33 PM
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#40
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Member
City: Houston
Vessel Name: HONU
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 42 Classic
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kapnd
Those heat exchanger caps rely on crown to seal around the edges, and caps can get flattened out from over tightening.
You can carefully work some crown back into them with a ball peen hammer.
Reinstall with new gaskets, Tony Athens recommendation is to use Rector Seal #5 to insure seal. Don’t overtighten when reinstalling!
New heat exchanger gaskets are an annual maintenance item on my boat, along with raw water impellers.
That may be overkill, but I see it as cheap insurance!
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Thanks for the insight. The new gaskets were delivered on Friday, along with the new lube oil coolers. I may wait for a few weeks before breaking things apart. We have opening day, christening and a boat parade at our club over the Memorial Day weekend (all socially distanced). After all the time my wife spent making new curtains and buying new rugs, we will not have an "open boat" as part of the festivities. Just in case I get into this and decide to start ripping things apart and take them out for cleaning or replacement, I want to get this little bit of steaming behind me. Experience tells me that once I am into it, something will go wrong or I will find something else I don't like and want to replace while I am in there, so doing it the night before the parade is not a good idea.
I thought I had a pretty clean engine and engine room, but seeing some of the photos people have posted has shown me I have a lot of work to do. I am already assembling the materials to get after the rust and other corrosion and make things look better. My plan is to leave some bare metal on the lube coolers under the bracket and put some penetrox in there to ensure it is well bonded with the engine. Hopefully that will lessen corrosion, but still allow all visible surfaces to be painted.
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