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Old 06-04-2023, 09:21 AM   #1
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Now I have gone and done it...

Hello, I'm a long time lurker and have finally jumped in with both feet. I purchased Dragonfly, a 1989 54' Tuna Troller conversion for a cruiser in Portland OR. When I say jumped in with both feet, I mean I sold my house in Colorado and bought this boat. The Marina she was moored at did not allow live a boards so I have moved her to Anchor on the Columbia river until I can get some stuff sorted. I.E. Electrical system is based on a DD271 3 phase generator and running it as much as I currently have to is driving me batty. Dragonfly is in decent shape and passed coast guard inspection. Well Mostly. Still got work to be done and the old adage of "The only thing that works on a old boat is it's owner" seems to be true

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Old 06-05-2023, 08:32 PM   #2
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Welcome to the forum. Oh man...you have interesting times ahead - very interesting. But good luck with it all. Just remember, it is meant to be fun..! And there is plenty of assistance available on here.
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Old 06-05-2023, 09:03 PM   #3
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Welcome to the forum. Oh man...you have interesting times ahead - very interesting. But good luck with it all. Just remember, it is meant to be fun..! And there is plenty of assistance available on here.
Gotta hand it to you. What a boat! Having a heavy steel hull under you when you start your adventures will feel good.

What are your plans for reducing or eliminating generator run time? I've spent years on a boat with 2-71 generator sets. I share your interest in reducing generator run time.

Where are you anchoring? Don't run afoul of Oregon's laws regarding liveaboards https://www.oregon.gov/dsl/WW/Docume...0117%20(2).pdf. I'm not aware of similar laws in Washington but it is getting tougher to liveaboard in Washington. Also don't run afoul of Washington's tax laws.
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Old 06-05-2023, 09:07 PM   #4
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Man, that's a big jump and welcome aboard!

Yeah, you got lotsa work to do and lotsa space to do it in.

Kinda cool. I wish I could stand up in the engine room...
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Sounds like the first page of a great adventure. congratulations. You might enjoy this guy:

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Welcome aboard. Keep us informed about your progress, and we love photos.
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Old 06-06-2023, 02:46 AM   #7
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Nice start
Have fun and welcome
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Old 06-06-2023, 05:36 AM   #8
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congratulations!! that's a lot of boat!

this thread does not apply to you

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Congratulations on your boat. I like it! Steel doesn't scare me at all. Thet 2-71 screaming does...I'd definity be thinking about alternative power sources and maybe another ,quieter generator. Worth noting & I'm not trying to rain on your parade but there's a big difference between a Coast Guard inspected boat and a Coast Guard safety inspection. Just saying. Anyway, enjoy your new home!
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Congratulations and Welcome Aboard!!

I hope you are an experienced boater and handyman.

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Old 06-06-2023, 08:31 AM   #11
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Welcome!!
First boat?
BIG step.
Need an instructor for 3 or 4 days at least
Learn to back it straight.
I dont see a bow thruster. Consider one, hyd. Get recommendation on size and then go up at least one size. When you need it, you dont want a minimum size.
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Old 06-06-2023, 09:17 AM   #12
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Welcome to Trawler Forum and the PNW!

So what's next moorage-wise?

I'm down river near St Helens when I'm at the dirt home. Presently up north on my boat, back home in a couple days. Lemme know if you need help with something.
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Old 06-06-2023, 09:19 AM   #13
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Gotta hand it to you. What a boat! Having a heavy steel hull under you when you start your adventures will feel good.

What are your plans for reducing or eliminating generator run time? I've spent years on a boat with 2-71 generator sets. I share your interest in reducing generator run time.

Where are you anchoring? Don't run afoul of Oregon's laws regarding liveaboards https://www.oregon.gov/dsl/WW/Docume...0117%20(2).pdf. I'm not aware of similar laws in Washington but it is getting tougher to liveaboard in Washington. Also don't run afoul of Washington's tax laws.
The batteries are shot right now, so they will be replaced with at least 3 200ah gel batteries, I am ordering a Victron Quattro since there is no inverters aboard and the chargers are vintage.

I am anchored off Frenchman's Bar right now near Vancouver and on the Washington side. Not sure about Washington Tax laws, in what way?
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Old 06-06-2023, 09:21 AM   #14
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Not my first boat at all, but the biggest so far LOL My last was a 27' Searay so lots of things a different

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First boat?
BIG step.
Need an instructor for 3 or 4 days at least
Learn to back it straight.
I dont see a bow thruster. Consider one, hyd. Get recommendation on size and then go up at least one size. When you need it, you dont want a minimum size.
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Congratulations on your boat purchase and welcome to the forum.
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Old 06-06-2023, 09:32 AM   #16
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I am very experienced handyman, not much I haven't fixed or built. As for boating, my biggest boat before Dragonfly was a 27' Searay Lake boat. So this is new to me. I was in the Navy but not much transfers to this situation lol

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Welcome!

Great adventures await you!

Cool boat, canít wait to learn more about her from your stories!
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I am anchored off Frenchman's Bar right now near Vancouver and on the Washington side. Not sure about Washington Tax laws, in what way?
Basic idea is non-residents have 45 days after sale to leave WA or be subject to fees for use in WA. With your CO home sold not sure what your residency status is in the eyes of the WA tax/registration authorities.

https://dor.wa.gov/education/industr...-sales-and-use

I keep my boat in WA for use in WA and Canadian waters, tag fees aren't too bad for an old boat. Insurance is more $$. Good luck with all that, there is plenty of good input on those topics here in TF.
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The batteries are shot right now, so they will be replaced with at least 3 200ah gel batteries, I am ordering a Victron Quattro since there is no inverters aboard and the chargers are vintage.

I am anchored off Frenchman's Bar right now near Vancouver and on the Washington side. Not sure about Washington Tax laws, in what way?
From Department of Revenue Washington State



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Washington residents who moor their vessels on the Oregon side of the Columbia River are subject to sales or use tax. Use of the vessels is presumed to be on the Columbia River. Because the state line is down the middle of the river, the vessel will cross into Washington.

Purchase and use of vessels by nonresidents


Generally, vessels purchased or used in Washington are subject to sales tax or use tax and must be registered. However, there are some exemptions available to nonresidents of Washington that are discussed in detail below.
My read on that is if you maintain residency outside of Washington state you should be good.



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Domestic nonresidents are exempt from vessel registration requirements for the first 60 days of use within 12 continuous months. RCW 88.02.570(5).
Domestic nonresident individuals can extend their registration exempt stay if, before the 61st day of use here, they purchase a nonresident vessel (cruise) permit from the Department of Licensing (DOL).
To further extend the registration exempt period, a domestic nonresident individual must purchase a nonresident vessel permit from DOL before the first nonresident vessel permit expires. Exempt stays may not exceed 6 months during any continuous 12-month period.
Nonresident individuals are also exempt from registering their vessels (if 30 feet or longer) for a one-year period if they purchase a vessel use permit. The use permit must be purchased at the time of purchase of the vessel or within 14 days of first entering the state with the vessel. RCW 88.02.570(13) and RCW 88.02.620.
So be careful how much time you spend on the Wa side.
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What do you plan on running off batteries? I see in the specs your gen set is 208 Volt 3 phase. That implies a number of AC systems that on a smaller boat would be DC. Will a 600 AH bank be enough? Simi 60 had a big ex-work boat he's converted to a very successful cruising liveaboard. Maybe he'll pop in and help with that.
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