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08-05-2021, 09:03 AM
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Senior Member
City: Homer, Ak
Vessel Name: Unicorn
Vessel Model: 1970 50' DEFEVER OFFSHORE CRUISER Timber
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 439
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once you got a taste of the NH 47 it would be difficult for you to get use to anything else.
just get her if you can afford her.
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08-05-2021, 10:58 AM
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City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116 2008
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 10,276
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Permit me a word for everyone's education.
When you look at a 20 old boat that indicated, 43ft OAL, you had a boat with an OAL of 43ft. These days the same hull may very well be classified as a 45 or 46ft OAL length. They are now including the thingie that "hangs off the stern", aka the swim platform, in the OAL and they can charge more money for the OAL of the boat. Prior to the change, the only person who held the swim platform important were the transit dock masters who willingly went to the boat to measure the OAL so they could charge more.
So, the theoretical 43OAL may very well have the usable OAL of 40ft.
I say this without knowing if you found someone willing to live and sleep on the swim platform.
Another example? My American Tug is documented as a 34ft OAL. The same but, new boats, hull length is the same as my 34. I am not criticizing the AT folks or the Norhavn folks. Almost all builders are adding in the swim platform in OAL.
I had an old N46 and then I added a swim platform resulting in a 49ft OAL, still documented as a 46ft OAL. SHRUG
It would be better if you considered the water line length instead of the LOA.
Just something to keep in mind as you look at boats.
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08-05-2021, 11:38 AM
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City: Richmond
Join Date: Aug 2021
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Originally Posted by OldDan1943
68camaro
Permit me a word for everyone's education.
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Excellent info I did not know, thank you.
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08-05-2021, 11:41 AM
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116 2008
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 10,276
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We aim to please.
Alas, I do not know the year that everyone changed over.
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08-05-2021, 11:42 AM
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City: Richmond
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ofer
once you got a taste of the NH 47 it would be difficult for you to get use to anything else.
just get her if you can afford her.
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Definitely a risk is now comparing everything else to the 47. Another couple was on board looking to upgrade from a 42, I think they mention having 36-42's so to them I am sure less daunting a jump.
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08-05-2021, 11:52 AM
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 12,538
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Welcome - Chose your boat carefully. If you get too small that is a pain. If you get too big that too is a pain.
The "pains" regarding inappropriately chosen size differences range from financial, to handling, to maintenance, to interior/exterior comforts, to finding dockage, to finding applicable mechanics, to speeds available, to fuel use rate, To-To-"Tooooo..."
I recommend listing all items you desire the boat to accomplish for you as well as your calculated budget. Then, with that list in your mind look at a lot of boats. The correct boat will eventually appear to "chose" you!
Good Luck! - Art
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08-06-2021, 08:32 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Pittsburgh
Vessel Name: Isabella
Vessel Model: 42’ Grand Banks Classic
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 31
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Grand Banks 42
Camero68
I recommend my GB 42’ Classic. It’s in great shape and easy to learn to maneuver. Contact me if you want to test drive.
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08-06-2021, 08:48 PM
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#28
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116 2008
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 10,276
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Isabella42
Camero68
I recommend my GB 42’ Classic. It’s in great shape and easy to learn to maneuver. Contact me if you want to test drive.
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LOL the grand banks would be a great boat if it didn't have all that exterior teak to maintain.
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08-06-2021, 09:29 PM
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 12,538
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldDan1943
LOL the grand banks would be a great boat if it didn't have all that exterior teak to maintain.
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Ahhh - That brings up... One of the leading best items re our Tolly's exterior maintenance needs... virtually no wood to keep finished. Actually, there are only two strips of 1" x 3" x 36" tall wood to the forward side of each of the 1/2 high midship slider doors. Tolly life is EZ!!
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08-07-2021, 07:44 AM
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Member
City: Richmond
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Isabella42
Camero68
I recommend my GB 42’ Classic. It’s in great shape and easy to learn to maneuver. Contact me if you want to test drive.
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Thank you, our goal to purchase is next summer but if I get up your way I will definitely give a shout. The 42' I think would be great size for us.
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08-07-2021, 07:51 AM
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116 2008
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 10,276
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Art
Ahhh - That brings up... One of the leading best items re our Tolly's exterior maintenance needs... virtually no wood to keep finished. Actually, there are only two strips of 1" x 3" x 36" tall wood to the forward side of each of the 1/2 high midship slider doors. Tolly life is EZ!!
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LOL Art. I have you beat. The American Tug has NO, NONE, NADA, ZILCH external teak.
HA HA HA  
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08-07-2021, 08:57 AM
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
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Originally Posted by OldDan1943
LOL Art. I have you beat. The American Tug has NO, NONE, NADA, ZILCH external teak.
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Damn! You your boat gets the gold and our Tolly's relinquished to the silver.
But Wait!!! - You mention external teak. We have non either... I think. MOF - I'm not really sure what 1" x 3" x 36" wood it is that's one piece on each of the 1/2 high slider doors... cause it's always been painted white!
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08-07-2021, 10:44 AM
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116 2008
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 10,276
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Art
Damn! You your boat gets the gold and our Tolly's relinquished to the silver.
But Wait!!! - You mention external teak. We have non either... I think. MOF - I'm not really sure what 1" x 3" x 36" wood it is that's one piece on each of the 1/2 high slider doors... cause it's always been painted white!
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Ah if it isn't starboard it is still teak. Admit it, you now hold 2nd place.
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08-07-2021, 11:28 AM
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldDan1943
Ah if it isn't starboard it is still teak. Admit it, you now hold 2nd place. |
Could be mahogany?? OK... still wood. No problem, 2nd place is fine for this instance.
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08-07-2021, 12:11 PM
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116 2008
Join Date: Oct 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Art
Could be mahogany?? OK... still wood. No problem, 2nd place is fine for this instance.
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Go and sin no more.
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08-07-2021, 12:26 PM
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City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
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08-07-2021, 12:55 PM
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Guru
City: Between Oregon and Alaska
Vessel Name: Charlie Harper
Vessel Model: Wheeler Shipyard 83'
Join Date: Jun 2016
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When you do get your boat, spend a few days, preferably with an experienced boat handler, docking and undocking. Not just your home dock, but city docks, fuel docks and so on. For awhile, every time you operate your boat include some docking practice.
Before you solo, practice several times with someone else aboard standing by.
My first boat was 65', bought on an online auction without my parents permission, I was 13. The money was earned. I come from a maritime family and received many hours of hands on instruction before I was allowed to operate on my own. But it made me a great boat handler. Boat was wood with twin Detroits, 20' shorter, but not unlike my current boat. I began my boating life with Detroits and will probably finish out with Detroits. It's been a great life with the most reliable, long running engines.
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08-07-2021, 07:34 PM
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 12,538
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lepke
When you do get your boat, spend a few days, preferably with an experienced boat handler, docking and undocking. Not just your home dock, but city docks, fuel docks and so on. For awhile, every time you operate your boat include some docking practice.
Before you solo, practice several times with someone else aboard standing by.
My first boat was 65', bought on an online auction without my parents permission, I was 13. The money was earned. I come from a maritime family and received many hours of hands on instruction before I was allowed to operate on my own. But it made me a great boat handler. Boat was wood with twin Detroits, 20' shorter, but not unlike my current boat. I began my boating life with Detroits and will probably finish out with Detroits. It's been a great life with the most reliable, long running engines.
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Congratulations!! - 13 yr old buys 65' twin screw diesel boat... Simply Priceless!!
Gotta ask though - "... an online auction..." ??
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08-07-2021, 07:46 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,528
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Wood belongs in the interior.
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08-07-2021, 07:55 PM
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Guru
City: Aventura FL
Vessel Name: Kinja
Vessel Model: American Tug 34 #116 2008
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 10,276
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Quote:
Originally Posted by markpierce
Wood belongs in the interior.
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I totally agree. 
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