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08-23-2014, 11:49 PM
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Senior Member
City: Ventura
Vessel Name: Tatanka
Vessel Model: 32' Nordic Tug
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 240
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Hello from Ventura, CA
Been lurking for awhile and finally decided to join and participate in this fine forum.
I've been looking at American Tugs and Nordic Tugs for several months now to enjoy with my young family.
I've been following Bligh's thread regarding his NT37 with great interest.
I've made an offer on a 2004 NT32 and it's been accepted, however the boat is in Fort Lauderdale, FL.
So, I'm flying out next week to have the boat surveyed and inspected.
It should pass with flying colors as it's very clean with only 546 hours on the Cummings 6BTA-5.9.
The boat has had a complete service done recently, and I'm happy about that because now I won't have to pay for it, but it's thrown a wrench in the oil survey aspect of the survey. All the fluids have been changed recently with minimal hours since then (<5)
Any input on this?
My diesel mechanic says to not worry about it too much as the hours are so low and that particular motor is almost bullet-proof. Also, he said that motor is detuned already and with it cruising at around 8-10 knots, chances of something being wrong with it would be rare.
Anyways, I'm excited about it and looking forward to taking the kids to Catalina Island along with our local islands.
Any other input regarding the survey? Anything in particular to look for that these boats had problems with?
Thanks!
J
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08-24-2014, 01:12 AM
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City: Vallejo, California
Vessel Name: Mahalo Moi
Vessel Model: 1986 Grand Banks 42 Classic
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,988
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Welcome aboard! Do you know BillyDiana from Oxnard?
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08-24-2014, 01:23 AM
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City: Hotel, CA
Join Date: Sep 2011
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Welcome Joe, you chose nicely. 
I would go re-read that thread of Bligh's a bit. He's doing it right in my opinion but there can be a little more than meets the eye in that engine room. Has your mechanic been aboard this boat? Saying "the hours are low so it oughta be fine" is easy to say if he has no skin in the game. 50-50 chance of being right I suppose but prefer better odds myself.
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08-24-2014, 10:27 AM
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Senior Member
City: Ventura
Vessel Name: Tatanka
Vessel Model: 32' Nordic Tug
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 240
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggitoni
Welcome aboard! Do you know BillyDiana from Oxnard?
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I don't. If their from Oxnard, they probably boat out of Channel Islands Harbor. I'm out of Ventura Harbor.
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Originally Posted by CPseudonym
Welcome Joe, you chose nicely. 
I would go re-read that thread of Bligh's a bit. He's doing it right in my opinion but there can be a little more than meets the eye in that engine room. Has your mechanic been aboard this boat? Saying "the hours are low so it oughta be fine" is easy to say if he has no skin in the game. 50-50 chance of being right I suppose but prefer better odds myself.
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I agree! I have an engine surveyor coming along with the other surveyor too.
If I buy the boat, when I get her back to California I'll have my mechanic go thru it once more.
After I spoke to my diesel mechanic friend, I asked if worse case I get the boat back to California and the motor blows up, what's a new one cost?
He said a brand new crate motor is $18,000  No word on whether that includes installation, ha!
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08-24-2014, 04:08 PM
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City: Fort Pierce
Vessel Name: Florita Ann
Vessel Model: 1982 Present
Join Date: May 2014
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I agree with your mechanic...it would take super human abuse to hurt that engine, intentional even. Check to see how long the boat has been registered in FL to insure it is not a Sandy boat. Start the engine...listen..look and smell the oil. Regular surveyor will tell you on asking if you need an engine survey. Ed Rowe and Asso. In Vero is a very through, experienced surveyor. If the deal falls through, save a bundle and buy my boat.
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Good luck.
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08-24-2014, 08:24 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
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How are you planning on bringing the boat to the West Coast? What will that cost?
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08-24-2014, 08:29 PM
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City: Upstate,SC
Vessel Name: Dutch Barge Caroliner
Vessel Model: Selway-Fisher 45' Teign Luxe Motor
Join Date: May 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by markpierce
How are you planning on bringing the boat to the West Coast? What will that cost?
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I'm curious as well.
He'll be on the water by end of the work day friday.
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08-24-2014, 08:48 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ben2go
I'm curious as well.
He'll be on the water by end of the work day friday.

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My dream. ... For me, it was a slow boat from China costing $27000 (slightly less than California use tax) and the shipping company claimed it lost money. Apparently, shipping is less expensive to Long Beach and Seattle compared to Oakland/San Francisco.
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08-24-2014, 08:59 PM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Hard to believe you couldn't find a suitable boar closer.
Lots of NTs up here too.
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08-24-2014, 11:40 PM
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Senior Member
City: Ventura
Vessel Name: Tatanka
Vessel Model: 32' Nordic Tug
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 240
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Quote:
Originally Posted by markpierce
How are you planning on bringing the boat to the West Coast? What will that cost?
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I've received multiple bids to haul the boat from Florida. They range between $10,000-$11,000.
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Originally Posted by manyboats
Hard to believe you couldn't find a suitable boar closer.
Lots of NTs up here too.
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There are several NT's for sale here in California. I was up in San Francisco 2 weeks ago to take a look at a very nice 2004 NT32 with a flybridge and highly optioned. Low hours. It was a perfect boat except for the price.
Even with the shipping, the boat in Florida is around 12K cheaper.
Most of the Washington boats I was interested in did not have a generator. Same with several of the California boats.
For me, a generator is an absolute must have item.
BTW, this is my 5th boat, and all of them but one I bought on the East coast and had shipped.
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08-24-2014, 11:45 PM
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Senior Member
City: Ventura
Vessel Name: Tatanka
Vessel Model: 32' Nordic Tug
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 240
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mule
I agree with your mechanic...it would take super human abuse to hurt that engine, intentional even. Check to see how long the boat has been registered in FL to insure it is not a Sandy boat. Start the engine...listen..look and smell the oil. Regular surveyor will tell you on asking if you need an engine survey. Ed Rowe and Asso. In Vero is a very through, experienced surveyor. If the deal falls through, save a bundle and buy my boat.
1982 Mainship I Power Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
Good luck.
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Thank you for your input Mule.
Beautiful boat sir!
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08-25-2014, 09:51 AM
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Guru
City: West Coast
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,400
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Ask Tony Athens for his opinion about the oil analysis situation and what your mechanic can do to get comfortable. He knows an awful lot about those engines. Google seaboard or boatdiesel.
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08-25-2014, 02:32 PM
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Senior Member
City: Fort Lauderdale
Vessel Name: Wataworld
Vessel Model: Defever 44+5
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 145
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Have you considered bringing the wife and the kids with you and taking an east coast vacation on the new toy!
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08-26-2014, 12:52 AM
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Senior Member
City: Ventura
Vessel Name: Tatanka
Vessel Model: 32' Nordic Tug
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 240
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MYTraveler
Ask Tony Athens for his opinion about the oil analysis situation and what your mechanic can do to get comfortable. He knows an awful lot about those engines. Google seaboard or boatdiesel.
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I've heard Tony Athens is the man when it comes to Cummings engines.
The bonus is that Tony's shop is in Oxnard and I can actually visit.
My diesel mechanic has three sons and they are all marine diesel mechanics.
One of his sons works for Tony.
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Originally Posted by Wataworld
Have you considered bringing the wife and the kids with you and taking an east coast vacation on the new toy!
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We have considered it.
We don't have passports for the kids but I would have liked to have gone to Bimini. I spent some time there in the early 90's and loved it.
If we pulled the kids out of school, and had a week to cruise the area, where/what would you recommend? The upper Keys? ICW?
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08-27-2014, 01:21 PM
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Senior Member
City: Fort Lauderdale
Vessel Name: Wataworld
Vessel Model: Defever 44+5
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 145
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East Vacation
Well I like the Florida Key's but there is the other coast or take a ride through the lock and Lake Okeechobee there is a lot going on here!
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08-27-2014, 02:42 PM
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Guru
City: Fort Pierce
Vessel Name: Florita Ann
Vessel Model: 1982 Present
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 1,935
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Like what?
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08-28-2014, 06:48 AM
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Guru
City: Thibodaux, Louisiana
Vessel Name: Gumbo
Vessel Model: 2003 Monk 36
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,882
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I'd have the local Fl Cummins dealer send a mechanic to inspect it, go out on a sea trial,
he'll probably be able to spot a problem better than an oil sample anyway.
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