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Old 02-18-2018, 07:41 AM   #21
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Here where I live we have a large transport facility that unloads coal from barges and has large conveyors over the road along the Mississippi River then dumps it into a pile. Then loads it onto ships for overseas. The ditch just outside of their fence is always full of black water. The company says that is from the previous owner and they're not responsible for cleaning the water. But the stockpiled coal is 10' or so from the ditch and every time it rains (which is quite often) runoff from the coal enters the ditch! With our humidity we don't get much if any dust from them but we do get the coal into our ditches. Thankfully our subdivision is higher than them.
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Old 02-18-2018, 08:36 AM   #22
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Wonder how that Washington State official got to work that day - I'll bet she didn't pedal a unicycle. Kind of the same thing with all the Standing Rock protesters, funny, they all drove cars and trucks to the protest camp, and heated their tents and shacks with oil derivatives. The irony seemed to escape every one of them.
Exactly. And for those folks dumb enough to believe that electric cars are "non-polluting". Someone should tell them that in most cases, electricity is produced by burning fossil fuel so all they are doing is moving the pollution to someone else's neighborhood. Someone poorer that they are.

The bottom line is, humans cause pollution. The earth was in balance until the humans came along. The solution of course is to get rid of the humans.

Otherwise, it's got to be a compromise between the needs of the humans and the needs of the environment.
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Old 02-18-2018, 08:38 AM   #23
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Am I missing something? I'm seeing a debate over coal trains, with no mention of political party.


Because one person is in favor of coal trains and another against them doesn't make it a political discussion any more than one person in favor of Cat engines and some dummy against them. Just kidding, of course, but just because people differ in their opinions doesn't necessarily make it a political discussion.
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So in your part of the water how will the State ( my part of the water, California, Oregon and Washington) handle new water regulations in an attempt to stop drilling off the State's shore?


How would these new regulations affect your boating pleasure?


So if you see oil drilling rigs out 25 miles from shore does the State have any control over that?
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So in your part of the water how will the State ( my part of the water, California, Oregon and Washington) handle new water regulations in an attempt to stop drilling off the State's shore?


How would these new regulations affect your boating pleasure?


So if you see oil drilling rigs out 25 miles from shore does the State have any control over that?
The state shouldn't have control 25 miles off their shores.

And if our country has oil offshore but chooses not to extract it, either our price for oil will go up or our standard of living will go down. Considering that we have safe ways of extracting it, it would be foolish to leave it in the ground and buy oil from other countries.
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The state shouldn't have control 25 miles off their shores.

And if our country has oil offshore but chooses not to extract it, either our price for oil will go up or our standard of living will go down. Considering that we have safe ways of extracting it, it would be foolish to leave it in the ground and buy oil from other countries.
We are already self-sufficient and have no need to purchase foreign oil.
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