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Old 07-04-2018, 10:36 AM   #1
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C. S. Forester Movie

Tom Hanks is turning The Good Shepherd into a movie! It will be called Greyhound. It is scheduled for release next March.

For those not familiar with Foresters novels, The Good Shepherd is about a destroyer escorting a convoy early in WW2.

Itís probably forty or fifty years since I read it. Just bought a Kindle version so I can read it again.

Hanks did a great job with Saving Private Ryan. Iím really looking forward to seeing what he does with a novel from my favorite author.
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Tom Hanks is turning The Good Shepherd into a movie! It will be called Greyhound. It is scheduled for release next March.

For those not familiar with Foresters novels, The Good Shepherd is about a destroyer escorting a convoy early in WW2.

Itís probably forty or fifty years since I read it. Just bought a Kindle version so I can read it again.

Hanks did a great job with Saving Private Ryan. Iím really looking forward to seeing what he does with a novel from my favorite author.

Thanks. Wasn't aware of this. Hope it's done well. Sorry they had to change the name but evidently there is a 2006 movie by the same name on a different topic.
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I wonder why they called it Greyhound though.
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Old 07-04-2018, 06:55 PM   #4
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Greetings,
Mr. AG. "I wonder why they called it Greyhound though." Hopefully that is a rhetorical question...
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Andy destroyers are sometimes referred to as Greyhounds of the Sea.
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Ahh. I see.

I have never had a Greyhound. I am wondering what class of naval boat they would have named after my old Basil, the mighty, if somewhat inert, Old English Sheep dog? Well he is inert now, as we lost him a couple of years ago, however even before that it was hard to tell sometimes.
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I remember the book well. Isn't Hanks a little long in the tooth for the lead?
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I remember the book well. Isn't Hanks a little long in the tooth for the lead?
"Producer?"

Whoops! My bad:

"The story is currently being adapted into a motion picture, Greyhound, scripted by and starring Tom Hanks, directed by Aaron Schneider, produced by Gary Goetzman. Principal photography was set to begin in Spring 2018 aboard the USS Kidd.["
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Hanks did OK as Captain Phillips, I thought. Looking forward to Greyhound.
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Finished re-reading the book yesterday. Now I’m really excited to see the movie.
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The Brits created the "Greyhound" class destroyers in the 1930s. There was also a destroyer named HMS Greyhound.

The USS Kidd (DD 661), where a lot of the filming occurred, is a museum ship in Baton Rouge.
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Thanks for the heads-up about this. C.S. Forester was a genius, of course, and anything with Tom Hanks' involvement has a decent chance of delivering a quality result.

The genre of dramatic films about WW II at sea is very uneven. It's painful to watch the 1953 film based on Nicholas Monsarrat's 1951 novel The Cruel Sea - one of the the best sea stories of all time, IMO. Contemporary digital techniques combined with better live-action filming should yield better products.
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Yes, hopefully the movie will focus on the man and his heroic selfless dedication and not get bogged down in technical aspects. If the producer has a decent technical adviser, the Mahan-class destroyer, built in the early 1930s and a couple of classes prior to the much more capable Kidd (Fletcher class) where filming occurred, won't have a combat information center (CIC) and closed in 5"/38 gunmounts as the Kidd does. CICs were first introduced by ship's companies out in the Solomon Islands as a necessity to be able to successfully utilize the new radar in combination with efficient radio communication (also sadly lacking in the early part of the war). The Good Shepard fought his war in the ghastly elements of the North Atlantic convoys using his wits and professional knowledge out on the bridge of his ship with few gadgets to aid him. BTW, the 18 Mahan class ships all fought in the Pacific. The close escorts of the convoys of early 1942 when the story takes place were even older US Navy ships to the halfway point and Royal Navy second rate ships the rest of the way to Britain largely because of the lack of refueling ships for the escorts were not available. But I digress......
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Rich, I like your digression. Details make it interesting. As you point out, the book was very much character driven. It will be interesting to see if Hanks can translate that to the screen. I bet he can.
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June 13 release, I believe. I'll be there.
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Tom Hanks has the damn virus! I hope that won’t delay the release. I’d guess that the filming is finished by now so it probably won’t be delayed.
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Isn't Hanks a little long in the tooth for the lead?
I'm picturing Mr. Rogers commanding a WW2 destroyer. "My goodness boys and girls, that's a torpedo coming at us. Can you say torpedo? Sure you can."
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I just recently read the book, and translated verbatim to a movie, it would make for an incomprehensible mish-mash to the average moviegoer as the Captain did most of the tactics in his head, and much dialog happened in his mind. There is much rich earth to till in the story, and a master movie maker and a star like Hanks could do it justice, just not in its original form. There may have been one error in Forester's recitation of a blizzard of bearings and turning directions the Captain had to keep in his head throughout the story. I am a trained and certified anti-submarine officer, and back when I went through training the ASW school had to train us, albeit briefly, in dropping depth charges because there were still a couple of ships with them. We learned on the latest in WWII equipment including a bearing recorder using an impression paper roll and the strikers which marked it, an item mentioned briefly in the book. Much of our training had more to do with modern sonars and ASW torpedoes and the nuclear depth charges we carried. The book accurately describes the cone of silence as you close in on the sub to drop charges and, yes, they could do some evasion in the brief time of loss of contact during the typical 12-knot destroyer attack speed (over that speed cavitation starts to obscure the reception). We played at out guessing the submarine moves the simulator operators would input just as the protagonist in the book did. What I found most inaccurate in the book was the skipper's taking ALL the reins of the fight into his own hands. To maintain a single character-centered story, Forester used the reasoning of the protagonist that this was necessary because of the inexperience of his officers, but in Navy I lived in from age 18 to 42 no skipper would ever do that, regardless of the experience level of the people under him. What I and every other commanding officer learned to do was to weigh in a bit where there may be a steep learning curve for the officer concerned and to have a very light hand where competence is demonstrated. You direct and monitor your people to accomplish the various functions involved in ASW in order to keep the big picture in mind. The Good Shepard simply does it ALL by himself with only a tiny nod to one of his officers who seems to be "getting it." When I was ASW officer, I stood on the bridge next to the captain with sound-powered phones on with one ear free to him and the other ear listening to the evaluator at the Dead Reckoning Trace (DRT) table in CIC behind the bridge and the sonar supervisor (my chief sonarman) down in the bowels of the ship. I directed the officer of the deck to drive the ship around as the evaluator and I determined necessary while the skipper might talk to the assist ship out on the "fence" and keep an eye out for safety. The captain could and would be free to flit back into CIC to see the picture as it developed on the DRT but would be on the bridge for me to coach him through the mock nuclear weapon firing procedure and the actual shooting of conventional training ASW torpedoes fired by sonar control with settings I determined and at my command. It was a team effort then and it was in WWII as well.
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