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Old 03-19-2016, 07:00 AM   #21
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Hopefully my boating friends who don't cruise respect my advice on anchoring....but...I tell them I have little experience in heavy weather anchoring because I don't expose myself to it. I feel ready for it, just don't want to experience it so I use my other skills to avoid it.
That's pretty much where I am. Think I have the bases covered; prefer not to take the test.

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Old 03-19-2016, 02:43 PM   #22
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I find it curious with all the disagreements in thousands of anchoring threads throughout the internet by competent cruisers that anyone can be seen as an authority on the subject.

In fact, some pretty simple testing and modeling by contemporary people with good experience and reputations are showing how some "boating experts" of yesteryear maybe relied too much on reputation and experience and little on science.

Now don't get me wrong....experience says a lot...but lots of experience doesn't always mean depth of knowledge.

Hopefully my boating friends who don't cruise respect my advice on anchoring....but...I tell them I have little experience in heavy weather anchoring because I don't expose myself to it. I feel ready for it, just don't want to experience it so I use my other skills to avoid it.

So I really wonder how valuable all these books and articles really are on a subject that is almost never agreed upon by people I trust that have lots of experience too...other than some very basics (easily picked up for free almost anywhere) and variations of anchoring (easily read on internet).

Heck, from tackle, techniques and even the anchorages themselves are almost always disagreed on.

Like many subjects here.
And that's why we talk about it endlessly. Knowbody knows, everyone has and opinion, nobody is right, and nobody is wrong. Except for Parks who will remind us that we have the wrong anchor and too little chain....
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Old 03-19-2016, 02:55 PM   #23
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That's my point about books on the subject...I have learned more from the endless Internet discussions, great anchoring videos and plain old practice than from any book I remember.

The good and the bad of the internet...
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Old 03-19-2016, 03:13 PM   #24
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That's my point about books on the subject...I have learned more from the endless Internet discussions, great anchoring videos and plain old practice than from any book I remember.

The good and the bad of the internet...
Still not enough chain
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Old 03-19-2016, 05:05 PM   #25
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Have the wrong anchor too...just ask Parks!
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Old 03-19-2016, 07:51 PM   #26
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Not actually cruised much on the East Coast yet and since its mostly sand or mud bottom, I'm going to go out on a limb and say 200 ft of chain is enough. If it's not, move.
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Old 03-19-2016, 08:52 PM   #27
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If the cruising grounds are indeed solely restricted to the AICW and immediately connected waters, then technically yes, 200 ft is plenty. Get up to New England / Maine, or up the Hudson, or say, the outer anchorages at Dry Tortugas to name a few and you'll want some extra rode.
200' of chain is more than enough for anchoring in Maine. I seldom put out more than 110'.
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Three to 15' is all I've ever used.
Have a 450' nylon rode.
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If one expects to learn everything he needs to know from reading forums on the Internet, he will end up totally confused and knowing nothing. There is a lot of absolutely wrong advice posted by people who have no idea what they are talking about. There is good advice posted as well but if you don't already know, how do you tell one from the other?

The books have value for the basics and the understanding of how anchors actually work. Probably, just a couple dozen pages would cover it all.

Back on topic, 200' of rode should do it for the AICW but it doesn't have to be all chain. Chain is heavy! We have done just fine with 30' of chain and the rest rope. The most we've ever used is about 150' total and we usually use about 120' or less. Remember more rode means a bigger swinging circle.

If the OP wants to keep his 200' of chain but questions whether he need's more, the suggestion of adding line to the end is a good one.
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...It depends where you want to go.
However, more than 200' of chain is rarely needed.
Do not mix chain length with the complete length of the anchor line.
I have 200' of 3/8" BBB chain with 350' of 5/8" nylon cable
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200' of chain is more than enough for anchoring in Maine. I seldom put out more than 110'.
In a lot of Maine, obviously in all the places you've anchored, yes. But certainly not all of Maine, that's for sure.
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