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02-15-2018, 08:21 AM
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Senior Member
City: Muskegon, MI
Vessel Name: Knot Salted
Vessel Model: 1981 Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 322
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Foot Switch to Control anchor Windlass?
Hello All,
I am ready to pull the trigger on a powered windlass with combination chain/rope gypsy. Should I presume that a up/down foot switch at the bow is the way to go - possibly in conjunction with a remote from the bridge? Or is another control type at the bow better?
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02-15-2018, 08:32 AM
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TF Site Team
City: Westerly, RI
Vessel Name: N/A
Vessel Model: 1999 Mainship 350 Trawler
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 4,162
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I've only ever seen foot switches at the bow, or a helm switch or both.
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02-15-2018, 08:33 AM
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Senior Member
City: LAFAYETTE,LA
Vessel Name: Relenti
Vessel Model: Atlantic 30, 1983
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 451
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I have controls at both helms but not at the bow. Have decided to add a wireless remote instead of foot switches. Reason-use anywhere on boat and less holes in deck.
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02-15-2018, 09:22 AM
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Senior Member
City: Washington
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 468
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When I installed my windlass I put control switches at both helms. After just once trying to tell my wife "up" or "down", I ordered foot switches for the bow. Fortunately I had the foresight to run the wires when I installed the windlass.
The bow switches are the only ones I use. I have to go to the bow anyway to release the line that keeps the load off the windlass so it's easier you just control the windlass from there while I am there anyway.
Make sure you buy a windlass that uses a contactor (relay) so the full windlass power doesn't have to go through the foot switches.
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02-15-2018, 09:26 AM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,149
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if you have a good helmsman and anchor puller, I like foot controls at the winch but have gone through 2 sets in 4 years.
I am leaning to almost totally use the helm switch and a wireless remote for when I need to be forward.
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02-15-2018, 09:34 AM
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Valued Technical Contributor
City: Litchfield, Ct
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 6,785
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If I had only one place to put switches, it would be foot switches at the bow. But that works with two people anchoring: one at the helm and another at the bow.
If you need to anchor single handedly, then you need foot switches at the bow and a rocker switch at the lower helm. That way you can power forward and pick up chain at the same time or deploy chain and back down. You always need switches at the bow to deploy and retrieve a snubber.
And I have always found an all chain rode much easier than a rope/chain rode to deploy and retrieve, especially single handed.
And finally some small windlasses that draw less than 50 amps do not have solenoids. So if you want to install a helm rocker switch you will need to run fairly big wire, #4 or #6 depending on the length of run. Solenoids reduce that draw significantly.
David
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02-15-2018, 09:49 AM
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Senior Member
City: Muskegon, MI
Vessel Name: Knot Salted
Vessel Model: 1981 Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 322
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Thank you all for quick responses. I really appreciate the insights.
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02-15-2018, 10:44 AM
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Guru
City: Columbia City, OR & Mulege, BCS
Vessel Name: Imagine
Vessel Model: Farrell 34
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 848
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Schaefer,
There are literally tons of useful info down in this anchoring folder, enough to anchor an aircraft carrier! One example:
http://www.trawlerforum.com/forums/s...tch-31122.html
I ditched the foot switches for safety reasons, went radio and at-helm control.
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02-15-2018, 10:46 AM
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Guru
City: San Diego
Vessel Name: Circuit Breaker
Vessel Model: 2021..22' Duffy Cuddy cabin
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 6,691
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Quote:
Originally Posted by schaefferoil
should i presume that a up/down foot switch at the bow is the way to go - possibly in conjunction with a remote from the bridge?
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yes
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02-15-2018, 11:50 AM
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Guru
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
Vessel Model: 1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 8,050
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I have foot switches and find it easiest to wash the rode and anchor down with controls on the bow. The admiral bumps the boat forward while I am bringing it in.
I also have switches on the bridge and lower salon helm.
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02-15-2018, 12:18 PM
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Guru
City: Queensland
Vessel Model: Milkraft 60 converted timber prawn trawler
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 5,482
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Keen for a remote setup to use from the portugese bridge vs inside wheelhouse but our solenoid setup is in the front cabin.
Do you reckon those remotes would have a good enough signal to shoot through the deck?
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02-15-2018, 12:19 PM
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Guru
City: Kenai, Alaska
Vessel Name: Melanie Rose
Vessel Model: 1999 Willard PH
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,236
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Have foot switches at the bow only, when running mixed rides the nylon line can hang up in the transition between chain and my low (in the splice) and once in a while the nylon can stick in the chain wheel and run up under the stripper, really jamming the windlass.
Then you wind up partially disassembling the windlass to get it operational again. I therefore tend it closely while standing on the bow (only). If you had all chain it probably would be fine to operate from the helm, but not in my situation.
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02-15-2018, 01:14 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,559
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I have both but mostly use the pedals adjacent to the windlass, particularly during recovery so am able to inspect and clean the chain and anchor. Before lowering, I need to go to the bow anyway to unsecure the windlass and anchor.
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02-15-2018, 02:02 PM
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Senior Member
City: Victoria, BC
Vessel Name: Timeless
Vessel Model: CHB 34
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 262
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Simi 60
Keen for a remote setup to use from the portugese bridge vs inside wheelhouse but our solenoid setup is in the front cabin.
Do you reckon those remotes would have a good enough signal to shoot through the deck?
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I recently bought this wireless remote which is made for off road winches
https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Remo...remote+control
Cheaper than marine models and works fine from anywhere on the boat.
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02-15-2018, 02:17 PM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,149
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug
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me too....works great but....my batteries ran out fast from the order...keep a few extra aboard.
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02-15-2018, 03:10 PM
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Guru
City: Queensland
Vessel Model: Milkraft 60 converted timber prawn trawler
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 5,482
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I need 24v so the amazon one is out but this eBay one should be similar
https://m.ebay.com.au/itm/RECOVERY-W...cAAOSwYeRaRN8W
At $13 its worth a try, just hope it can shoot through several inches of wood
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02-15-2018, 06:15 PM
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Veteran Member
City: Victoria, BC
Vessel Name: Fair Play
Vessel Model: 1960 Taley 40' cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 84
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I hate foot switches, expensive and always seem to break. Plus more holes in the deck. I have a wired switch at the helm and a wireless remote for when I'm doing bow work.
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02-15-2018, 06:23 PM
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Guru
City: Palm Coast, FL
Vessel Name: Coquina
Vessel Model: Lagoon 380
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,570
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alesnloggers
I hate foot switches, expensive and always seem to break. Plus more holes in the deck. I have a wired switch at the helm and a wireless remote for when I'm doing bow work.
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I like the WIRED remote with the coil cord. You can't drop it overboard and loose it. It does require a plug in; my last boat I put it just inside the hatch.
I've had foot switches too. Ungarded,without the swing cover, it is possible for someone to accidently hit the UP, and stress the system a bit. Overall, hand switches are easier to "navigate" than two foot switches that you are not looking at.
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02-15-2018, 06:39 PM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,149
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but foot switches free up hands that can be used to do other things.... definitely a tradeoff.
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02-15-2018, 06:42 PM
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Senior Member
City: Washington
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 468
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And you can't lose a footswitch or drop it overboard. And it doesn't have batteries to go dead.
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