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Old 06-17-2020, 07:21 PM   #1
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My anchor rode is all chain . How much should I have for the East Coast and the Great Loop? I think I have entirely to much.
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Old 06-17-2020, 07:26 PM   #2
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How much do you have currently? And do you have a reason you need to cut out some weight up forward? Realistically, 150 feet of chain will cover most places on the east coast, although having more may open up some alternate spots to anchor.

If weight is a real concern, I'd cut the chain down to 150 feet and carry another 100 feet of line behind that.

Another option to save weight if the current chain is BBB would be to go to g43 one size smaller, although that'll need a new chainwheel for the windlass.
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Old 06-17-2020, 07:29 PM   #3
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Iíve got 400 feet. I just figured thereís no need to carry that much if Iím never going to need it.
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Most of the time you need less than 100'. There were a few spots off the Loop (Lake Superior) where I was happy to have more. If you're windlass will handle a combination road, 100' of chain and 200' of rope would cover all the bases.

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That's probably more than you need, but depending on what places you explore while doing the loop, maybe not more than you could conceivably use. I'd think about cutting it down to 200 or 300 feet and use some of the rest for a chain leader on a secondary rode, etc.

If your windlass can handle chain spliced to line, maybe go 200 plus 100 of line. If not, I'd be more inclined to stick with 300 feet if the boat carries it well.

Personally, I carry 90 feet of chain and 300 of line. Having 200+ out is common locally (Lake Ontario), as anchoring in 30 plus feet of water opens up a lot of good spots that aren't packed like the shallow areas. I spent a couple nights this past weekend in 48 feet of water with 275 feet of rode out. I could have gone for shallower water, but this was the nicest spot in the bay and also the least crowded and quietest due to most people preferring to pack in tightly in the shallow areas.
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Iíve got 400 feet. I just figured thereís no need to carry that much if Iím never going to need it.
I have 350' on my main anchor. Never used half (175') doing the Loop. But, I would want more than 175 of road available.

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Old 06-17-2020, 07:38 PM   #7
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I think Iíll just cut off 100í and go with 300í of all chain.
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I think Iíll just cut off 100í and go with 300í of all chain.
That should serve you well. And then you'll have chain to use for a second rode (probably not the whole 100 feet).
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I’ve got 400 feet. I just figured there’s no need to carry that much if I’m never going to need it.
I had 400 feet of 5/16 BBB when I moved the boat (Grand Banks 42) from west to east coast. I cut back to 200 feet.
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The last 100' of chain in the locker might be of a different condition than the top chain used most frequently, closest to the anchor. The last 100' of chain on my boat, when we got it, was rusted from 1" of standing water in the chain locker. Take a look at the whole chain before you cut.
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Iím bad about actually measuring how much chain I have. All I know is itís all chain. I guess the 3:1 rule and havenít had any issues....until last week when we anchored in 22í of water with a 2.5 kt current and a stiff wind. We dragged. So I relocated and dropped it all. Iím going to guess itís 150í ish. It held great. Getting it all back the next morning with a windless thatís doesnít work was one hell of a work out. Fixing the windless has moved up on the ďto doĒ list.

Most of the time we are anchoring in 5-8í of water.

This has been in FL and GA.
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Old 06-18-2020, 05:33 AM   #12
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Running the loop there is no coral so chain is not a requirement.


15 ft of chain , the rest nylon reduces the chain scrubbing to keep the mud from stinking while below..
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We did the Loop with 100' chain and 100' line. No problems and only needed 120' twice. I now have 190' chain, 100' line. The boss watches closely to see that we are 7/1 on scope. Early in our cruising life I had to wake her at 1am due to dragging. I only had 4/1 out at the time. She doesn't let that happen anymore.
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Dock bow in one day. Lay it all out on the dock and inspect every link before cutting.
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Plus1for High Wire.

Really should be a job very early in a new to me boat ownership.
Lay it all out, inspect, measure, is bitter end secured.....
(Not say the OP did not do it)
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And while you are inspecting it, put some kind of markers on it so you can know what you have out to the nearest 20-25 feet. Sometimes it is nice to anchor in a deeper area away from the madding crowd.
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Running the loop there is no coral so chain is not a requirement.


15 ft of chain , the rest nylon reduces the chain scrubbing to keep the mud from stinking while below..
I don't think I would sleep very well knowing there was only 15 feet of chain out there, but that is just me. I have more than that on my 20 foot boat.
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15 ft of chain , the rest nylon reduces the chain scrubbing to keep the mud from stinking while below..

I've got no smell issues despite pulling up very muddy chain just about every time I anchor. It gets a heavy rinse with the washdown as it comes up (and I'll pause for any mud clumps if needed). The locker has good overboard drainage and gets some airflow through the windlass hawse hole, so the chain sitting on top of the line dries within a few hours typically. There's just a hint of smell if I shove my head in the locker, but nothing significant and it doesn't spread into the boat.

If smell is a real concern, add ventilation to the locker and seal the hatch into the boat better.
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I have about 130 feet of chain and about 100 feet of line. I anchor in 7-14 feet. I don't think we've ever used more than 75 feet of chain. The nylon is only for very deep water anchoring, which we avoid.

I've had several friends with nylon rode have it parted by idiots in day boats. They make two weird mistakes. They traverse the crowded anchorage along the bows of anchored boats (where the anchor line is) rather than the transoms (as if they think they're being polite by not 'walking through their backyard"). They assume the anchor line magically disappears once it's in the water (out of sight out of mind).

I had an idiot foul their prop in a nylon anchor line a few years ago. Fortunately, they didn't part the line. They saw it and chopped the throttle in time and momentum just sucked up a few wraps and put a small knick in the line. I pulled in the length and recleated in front of the knick and replaced the line after the vacation was over.
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I guess the 3:1 rule and havenít had any issues....
IMHO 3:1 is only good for a lunch hook or in extremely calm weather. I personally wouldn't want to spend multiple days at 3:1. Where we anchor the anchorages are tight. If someone comes in and anchors behind you, you can't pay out to 5:1 if the wind pipes up or a storm comes in. I'd prefer to anchor at a length that accounts of all possible conditions. 5:1 with all chain and 7:1 with a nylon rode is my standard.
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