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Old 07-26-2019, 02:53 PM   #21
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Well I'm kind of shocked when I read replies from those who state that they can not understand why anyone would want a chain counter. Well I have owned trawlers with and without. Currently with and I love it. Yes I frequently anchor in depths over 100'. If I just marked the chain, and I take a look behind while I'm backing down, and I miss seeing chain marks, I lose track of where I am. My wife has nothing really to do while I set the anchor. On retrieval, she does not have to stand on the "up" button while signaling to me the direction of the chain. As we get the anchor out of the water I have her jog it in gently with the foot button. Could I do it from the fly bridge? Yes, but I like her view of it better. Once it is out of the water I can concentrate on leaving what may be a crowded anchorage. Would I care about this if I was anchoring in 30'. Probably not nearly as important, but still handy. So again, I love the chain counter.
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Old 08-07-2019, 10:12 AM   #22
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Timely thread...I just ordered a Maxwell AA150 Chain Counter and my understanding as to exactly how it works is per twistedtree's post, above.
Update...The AA150 is installed and works great...either from the flybridge or the foot switches. The only gripe I have is that the so called backlight is hardly readable at night! Fine in daylight but the red diodes are very dim at night. And "yes", I know there are 4 levels of light by momentarily pushing either the - or the + buttons.

The toughest part was pulling the sensor cable from the windlass to the bridge. It necessitated adding two round inspection hatches in the captain's cabin & the guest head.
they were painted brown so as to be not so noticeable.
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Old 02-05-2020, 04:02 AM   #23
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I,m finding it hard to see my chain markings from the fly bridge and I often boat alone. I just want a simple chain counter. Do any of you have suggestions for a simple chain counter that isnít too difficult to install? Boat show is coming up this Friday in Vancouver.
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Old 02-05-2020, 07:29 AM   #24
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Ours is Maxwell's AA150. Don't remember cost, or install details. Wire from bow to helm, probably. Counts chain very well, not as good with rope.

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I won't rehash the points already made by TT and others above about the benefits of auto anchor: I wouldn't be without mine and regard it as near essential after 10years active use. I have the wireless control and it's worth noting that can be easily self programmed to also control thrusters, anchor washdown pump and docking lights. Great having control over those functions when on the bow setting or retrieving. (I also have a conventional Up/Down switch at the lower helm that I put there for backup. Apart from very occasionally testing to confirm it still works, I have never used it in place of the auto anchor in 10 years.
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Ours is Maxwell's AA150. Don't remember cost, or install details. Wire from bow to helm, probably. Counts chain very well, not as good with rope.
Ditto...On second thought I wish I had bought a smarter model but this AA150 does count chain very well and I guess that beats painting the chain every so often.
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Old 02-05-2020, 12:58 PM   #27
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I go forward to launch and retrieve, wifey takes the helm, hand signals work nicely... although we've recently begun using headsets and of course they work too.
We have head sets but as of yet haven't used them for anchoring. Definitely will do that in the future. If someone other than your normal crew is at the helm or the bow, head sets really simplify the process for the new crew member. A recent trip to Catalina Island aboard my buddied's boat convinced me that head sets are really nice to have when crewing on another's boat.
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Peter B has a chain counter.
Look him up.
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There are probably lots of different types, but the one I've used is just a feature in the chain counter. It's a Maxwell AA560. It keeps track of how much chain is out (the counter part), has manual up/down control buttons, and also has auto up/down.
Note: TT is absolutely correct! There are numerous models of chain counters on the market of which the Maxwell AA150 is just one. The AA designation on the 150 is a misnomer IMHO, as there really isn't anything "automatic" about it. It simply counts the amount of chain deployed or weighed each time the gypsy rotates.(ie: magnet installed in the gypsy.) It has no control over the windlass. It can count when releasing the clutch and letting the anchor free fall too!

I have one and love it! I operate it either from the bow mounted foot switches or the windlass switches on the flybridge panel.

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We have a maxwell AA560 chain counter still sitting in its box in the spares locker.
Near 4 years full time cruising anchoring every day and never found the need to fit it.

Chain has 1/4 inch bright poly rope woven into links with ends hanging out like a flag at 25 metre intervals.
Can see them clearly from the wheelhouse as they go out.
Not hard to count to 1, 2 or maybe 3 if in deeper water.

No headsets required, simple hand signal to attach snubber
Retrieval/deployment controlled by me at the helm with simple toggle switch or Portuguese bridge with remote.
Easy deployment and retrieval single handed.
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We have a maxwell AA560 chain counter still sitting in its box in the spares locker.
Near 4 years full time cruising anchoring every day and never found the need to fit it.

Chain has 1/4 inch bright poly rope woven into links with ends hanging out like a flag at 25 metre intervals.
Can see them clearly from the wheelhouse as they go out.
Not hard to count to 1, 2 or maybe 3 if in deeper water.

No headsets required, simple hand signal to attach snubber
Retrieval/deployment controlled by me at the helm with simple toggle switch or Portuguese bridge with remote.
Easy deployment and retrieval single handed.
Simi, the way I look at it, these things are like electric windows in cars. Until you've had them, you don't miss them, but after you have, you wonder how you ever put up with not having them. The chain counter is the same. I have never met anyone who installed (or had installed) one that ever regreted having it. I dare you to install that chain counter and then we'll see.

And yes, as Eric mentioned, I did instal a simple, quite cheap, just manual up and down CruzPro chain counter, and absolutely loved it, and it didn't have any auto retrieve capability either, but it just worked..!

However, they also have quite reasonably priced fancier ones that do have auto retrieve, etc. https://www.bing.com/search?q=cruzpr...APMCS1&PC=APMC
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I've ran boats with chain counters before.
I stick to my comment.
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I've ran boats with chain counters before.
I stick to my comment.
Sorry, Simi, that answer won't float. Just stick that chain counter on, use it a bit, then get back to us...then try to convince us you hate it, and wish it gone. Or, aren't you up to fitting it yourself..? Don't be proud - we would understand. Just do it next time the boats in for work.
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Its not a matter of loving it or hating it.
Its a matter of needing it.

As we anchor 25m chain minimum, then 50m, then 75m and have coloured rope at those points there is simply no need for a chain counter.

You can count to 3 right?
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We have a maxwell AA560 chain counter still sitting in its box in the spares locker.
Near 4 years full time cruising anchoring every day and never found the need to fit it.

Chain has 1/4 inch bright poly rope woven into links with ends hanging out like a flag at 25 metre intervals.
Can see them clearly from the wheelhouse as they go out.
Not hard to count to 1, 2 or maybe 3 if in deeper water.

No headsets required, simple hand signal to attach snubber
Retrieval/deployment controlled by me at the helm with simple toggle switch or Portuguese bridge with remote.
Easy deployment and retrieval single handed.

Simi I use 1,2,3 and four pcs of nylon tape at 50’ intervals from 100’.
And I deploy hand over hand.

I hear ya Mark.
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Old 02-15-2020, 08:45 AM   #37
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Note: TT is absolutely correct! There are numerous models of chain counters on the market of which the Maxwell AA150 is just one. The AA designation on the 150 is a misnomer IMHO, as there really isn't anything "automatic" about it. It simply counts the amount of chain deployed or weighed each time the gypsy rotates.(ie: magnet installed in the gypsy.) It has no control over the windlass. It can count when releasing the clutch and letting the anchor free fall too!

I'd forgotten what the "AA" stood for. Correct, nothing "auto" about it; it just counts chain. Counts well. Not so perfect for rope, but chain count is very accurate.

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