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07-01-2021, 01:52 AM
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City: North Vancouver
Vessel Name: Phoenix Hunter
Vessel Model: Kadey Krogen 42 (1985)
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A new “all around white light” for the masthead
It seems my anchor light on the masthead is no longer working. I have not yet gone up there to explore around, but I suspect it may have succumbed to corrosion. Not sure. I’m planing for replacement but would be happy if it just needs a replacement bulb. Not looking forward to putting a ladder up the mast. With the “A” frame that is attached, lowering the mast would be complicated.
I need to get onto this quickly as I hope to cruise north on Monday. Thursday is a holiday and everything will be closed.
I am looking at one of these but am happy for other suggestions.
https://www.stevestonmarine.com/Aqua...BoCU7sQAvD_BwE
Jim
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07-01-2021, 05:52 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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Looks WAY expensive for what you get.
Is your boat so large it requires a 5 mile lamp?
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07-01-2021, 06:12 AM
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Senior Member
City: St. Petersburg
Join Date: Oct 2007
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@FF #2: Website states 2 mile visibility, which is the requirement.
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07-01-2021, 07:46 AM
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City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
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You could use the 24 dollar one and use an LED bulb.
I used an incandescent light fixture with a "certified replacement LED bulb" and it is Sooooo much brighter than OEM and has full 365 degree visability.
Its so bright that it puts a shadows around the boat, lights up the boat clearly enough to make out sharp details of the whole boat in the anchorge, ruins stargazing, attracts marine life beyond the shadow line, etc..... it's almost too bright...and uses a fraction of the amp draw.
This one already has the LED light installed....Certified by USCG 3 Nautical Miles ABYC A-16. LED Beam Angle of 120 degrees (says only for boats less than 12 meters but think that is in error)
https://www.amazon.com/Five-Oceans-M...a-567515984562
This one can be fitted with LED light too.
https://www.amazon.com/Aqua-Signal-A...a-574196789012
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07-01-2021, 08:10 AM
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City: Vermont
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Here's a less expensive alternative from Hella.
https://www.amazon.com/HELLA-Marine-.../dp/B00TUO1TBG
Personally I would replace with a sealed LED unit rather than mess with an LED bulb replacement which still leaves you exposed to corrosion failures. I say this mostly because I would only want to tackle the mast once.
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07-01-2021, 08:41 AM
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Guru
City: North Vancouver
Vessel Name: Phoenix Hunter
Vessel Model: Kadey Krogen 42 (1985)
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Thanks for the replies. I’m going up the mast today to see what is going on. Maybe it just needs a replacement bulb. The existing fixture has an LED bulb in it.
Jim
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07-01-2021, 09:42 AM
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City: Grand Rapids, MI
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And if all else fails, a simple white lantern hung so it's visible 360 will suffice. Many sailboats do this, thinking the mast top anchor light 50-60 feet up is too high, up close you'd have to look up to see it and the drunk in the speed boat probably won't do that. The guy two or three miles away can see your high anchor light, but he can't hit you from there. The guy 50 feet away will.
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07-01-2021, 09:49 AM
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City: Gig Harbor, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jgwinks
And if all else fails, a simple white lantern hung so it's visible 360 will suffice. Many sailboats do this, thinking the mast top anchor light 50-60 feet up is too high, up close you'd have to look up to see it and the drunk in the speed boat probably won't do that. The guy two or three miles away can see your high anchor light, but he can't hit you from there. The guy 50 feet away will.
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A very good point, with the added advantage that it makes your boat easier to identify if you are returning to it in an anchorage in the dark. My sailboat brethren have taken to using the solar powered yard lights mounted each side of their cockpit on the rails.
~Alan
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07-01-2021, 10:20 AM
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City: Ft Pierce
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The truly drunk boater may not be paying attention at all....no matter where the light is.....
Then again you don't have to be drunk to not be paying attention......
I was using solar lights till I went to an LED anchor light.... that baby lights up the whole deckhouse and rails that reflect back quite strongly. The boat almost looks like it does in the twilight right after sunset.
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07-01-2021, 11:10 AM
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City: Anacortes
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That Aqua Signal 34 street price at Fisheries Supply is $99USD, though they only have it in white
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07-01-2021, 01:18 PM
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City: Qualicum Beach, Vancouver Island
Vessel Name: Capricorn
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Replace the whole thing with something that will go on and off with sunset/sunrise. You may or may not be surprised at how many anchor lights I see on at my marina. The light may be on for a month before the owner returns or in the off season - months.
Take the lazy approach.
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07-01-2021, 02:01 PM
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City: North Vancouver
Vessel Name: Phoenix Hunter
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This is the existing light.
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07-01-2021, 02:22 PM
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City: North Vancouver
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A new “all around white light” for the masthead
It looks well installed with butt connectors and heat shrink. Probably no corrosion there. The light is not replaceable by the looks of it. So the power is off and I’m going to cut the wires after securing the main cable and then test for voltage.
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07-01-2021, 02:51 PM
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City: North Vancouver
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A new “all around white light” for the masthead
The light is full of water. “Hella Marine” New Zealand. Earlier photos reveal it had a dome over it. I believe a seagull or a crow pecked it off. That’s my opinion.
Voltage is good at 13.3 volts. House bank is 13.39.
Update. The Western Marine catalog has the exact same light, with the same mounting points as near as I can determine. If it’s in stock, it’s a no brainer.
Jim
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07-01-2021, 03:39 PM
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City: Au Gres, MI
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But is it LED? If not I would find one that is. No more trips up the mast with an LED.
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07-01-2021, 04:16 PM
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City: North Vancouver
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Yes. LED. The original unit was quite bright. Probably 10 years old.
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07-01-2021, 04:42 PM
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There you go.
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07-02-2021, 06:03 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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IF The big difference between the 2 mile light and 5 mile light is only the LED installed , I would go for the 5 mile white light.
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08-11-2022, 09:49 AM
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Resurrecting an old thread I know, but in an effort to minimize electronic clutter in the universe... I need to replace my masthead light. I've had Hella lights on our previous boat and this one, and in my opinion, they're very expensive junk. One of them nearly set our boat on fire, we still have a scorch mark on the forward berth headliner. Perko -- ok, but the lenses keep clouding over and looking terrible, I'm sick of replacing lenses (and I'm not even in a high UV latitude). I've got to install a new mast (pipe) too so I can tailor the mounting to whatever the new light needs.
Has anybody tried "Scialeds"? They must have a very small sales history or limited distribution, I can hardly find anything on them and only one brief (positive) mention on Cruisers Forum from 2020. I see them sold on eBay for around $100. I was thinking of doing the tricolor & anchor, 3NM. A little bigger than a hockey puck. Made in Argentina apparently. Any experience on here? Here's the company website, and a sales listing.
Scialeds Luces Exterior
https://www.ebay.com/itm/165404409239
Thanks.
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08-11-2022, 10:01 AM
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City: Rochester, NY
Vessel Name: Hour Glass
Vessel Model: Chris Craft 381 Catalina
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No experience with that one, but I've done a couple of seasons with the Hella NaviLED Pro side and stern lights without issues. My masthead light is a Signal Mate 3nmmhanc. It works as both a 225° masthead light and an anchor light. And it's bright. So far it's worked perfectly (a bit expensive though).
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