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09-30-2021, 01:06 PM
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#81
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Guru
City: Seattle
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,164
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hippocampus
Still think the 462 is a fine boat.
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I’d say all the DD’s 50ft and below are mainstream, have a huge following and are quite marketable.
Big girl Ellemaid doesn’t fit that category.
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10-02-2021, 09:42 PM
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#82
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Guru
City: Gig Harbor
Vessel Name: Kinship
Vessel Model: North Pacific 43
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 9,045
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In August we spent a night at the Everett marina. Got an empty slip on one of the permanent docks. There was a very nice DD on the same dock. Really a lovely boat.
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10-03-2021, 11:57 AM
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#83
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Guru
City: NC
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,305
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dhays
In August we spent a night at the Everett marina. Got an empty slip on one of the permanent docks. There was a very nice DD on the same dock. Really a lovely boat.
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If it was a dark blue boat, no fly bridge, and the standard/simple sail plan, then it is likely Shearwater and she is a really beautiful boat.
Later,
Dan
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10-03-2021, 05:32 PM
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#84
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Guru
City: Gig Harbor
Vessel Name: Kinship
Vessel Model: North Pacific 43
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 9,045
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Yes, that is the one! Beautiful boat. I was drooling the whole time.
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10-30-2023, 04:58 PM
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#85
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Member
City: Naples, FL
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 11
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something I've noticed with Diesel Duck designs. Often the boats are for sale, shortly after they have been used slightly.
Is the nature of these boats the owners do a "once in a lifetime" cruise, and then sell the boats and return to land.
Or is there something inherent in the DD designs that owners end up not liking the boat?
Poor motion at sea?
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10-30-2023, 06:50 PM
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#86
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Guru
City: Saint Petersburg
Vessel Name: Weebles
Vessel Model: 1970 Willard 36 Trawler
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 6,731
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueRidge
something I've noticed with Diesel Duck designs. Often the boats are for sale, shortly after they have been used slightly.
Is the nature of these boats the owners do a "once in a lifetime" cruise, and then sell the boats and return to land.
Or is there something inherent in the DD designs that owners end up not liking the boat?
Poor motion at sea?
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Can of worms. I don't think there's any issue with the boat per se. They are a bit cave-like but that's obvious. What you see is what you get.
I suspect that due to the lower price point, they attract a lot of novice passagemakers. More likely either they tick the bucket list item, or they figure out long range cruising isn't for them. Or it takes a lot more money than they thought to campaign a passagemaker
They're strong boats. Purpose built. I don't think it's the boat. More likely the buyer.
Peter
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M/V Weebles
1970 Willard 36 Sedan Trawler
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10-30-2023, 07:36 PM
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#87
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Guru
City: NC
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,305
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueRidge
something I've noticed with Diesel Duck designs. Often the boats are for sale, shortly after they have been used slightly.
Is the nature of these boats the owners do a "once in a lifetime" cruise, and then sell the boats and return to land.
Or is there something inherent in the DD designs that owners end up not liking the boat?
Poor motion at sea?
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At least the original owners I have followed, the owners of the DD 462's seem to keep them for many years. I see some coming on the market as the owners seem to age out.
The owners who have been in some serous seas have liked the boats motion. Many of the informational blogs have been disappearing as time passes.
Later,
Dan
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10-30-2023, 10:42 PM
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#88
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Guru
City: SoCal and Vancouver Island
Vessel Name: Tortuga
Vessel Model: Nordhavn 63
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 694
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mvweebles
Can of worms. I don't think there's any issue with the boat per se. They are a bit cave-like but that's obvious. What you see is what you get.
I suspect that due to the lower price point, they attract a lot of novice passagemakers. More likely either they tick the bucket list item, or they figure out long range cruising isn't for them. Or it takes a lot more money than they thought to campaign a passagemaker
They're strong boats. Purpose built. I don't think it's the boat. More likely the buyer.
Peter
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Agreed. The boats are fine but not for everyone. Some buyers don’t figure out until they own it that it might not be the right boat for them. Some figure out after they buy a boat that cruising is not for them.
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11-11-2023, 02:26 PM
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#89
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Veteran Member
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 49
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Here is a Duck at least as big, which has all of the features the Turkish boat lacks: https://www.strannikoceanvoyages.com
She was built in the Seahorse yard under close supervision and has been all over the Western Pacific. No problem with airiness and light below.
Our Duck was built in Quebec and completed in BC, cruised the Inside Passage for a decade and then was shipped to NZ. She's been a great boat.
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