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Old 09-30-2021, 01:06 PM   #81
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Still think the 462 is a fine boat.

Id say all the DDs 50ft and below are mainstream, have a huge following and are quite marketable.

Big girl Ellemaid doesnt fit that category.
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In August we spent a night at the Everett marina. Got an empty slip on one of the permanent docks. There was a very nice DD on the same dock. Really a lovely boat.
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Old 10-03-2021, 11:57 AM   #83
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In August we spent a night at the Everett marina. Got an empty slip on one of the permanent docks. There was a very nice DD on the same dock. Really a lovely boat.
If it was a dark blue boat, no fly bridge, and the standard/simple sail plan, then it is likely Shearwater and she is a really beautiful boat.

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Yes, that is the one! Beautiful boat. I was drooling the whole time.
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something I've noticed with Diesel Duck designs. Often the boats are for sale, shortly after they have been used slightly.

Is the nature of these boats the owners do a "once in a lifetime" cruise, and then sell the boats and return to land.

Or is there something inherent in the DD designs that owners end up not liking the boat?

Poor motion at sea?
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something I've noticed with Diesel Duck designs. Often the boats are for sale, shortly after they have been used slightly.

Is the nature of these boats the owners do a "once in a lifetime" cruise, and then sell the boats and return to land.

Or is there something inherent in the DD designs that owners end up not liking the boat?

Poor motion at sea?
Can of worms. I don't think there's any issue with the boat per se. They are a bit cave-like but that's obvious. What you see is what you get.

I suspect that due to the lower price point, they attract a lot of novice passagemakers. More likely either they tick the bucket list item, or they figure out long range cruising isn't for them. Or it takes a lot more money than they thought to campaign a passagemaker

They're strong boats. Purpose built. I don't think it's the boat. More likely the buyer.

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something I've noticed with Diesel Duck designs. Often the boats are for sale, shortly after they have been used slightly.

Is the nature of these boats the owners do a "once in a lifetime" cruise, and then sell the boats and return to land.

Or is there something inherent in the DD designs that owners end up not liking the boat?

Poor motion at sea?
At least the original owners I have followed, the owners of the DD 462's seem to keep them for many years. I see some coming on the market as the owners seem to age out.

The owners who have been in some serous seas have liked the boats motion. Many of the informational blogs have been disappearing as time passes.

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Can of worms. I don't think there's any issue with the boat per se. They are a bit cave-like but that's obvious. What you see is what you get.

I suspect that due to the lower price point, they attract a lot of novice passagemakers. More likely either they tick the bucket list item, or they figure out long range cruising isn't for them. Or it takes a lot more money than they thought to campaign a passagemaker

They're strong boats. Purpose built. I don't think it's the boat. More likely the buyer.

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Agreed. The boats are fine but not for everyone. Some buyers don’t figure out until they own it that it might not be the right boat for them. Some figure out after they buy a boat that cruising is not for them.
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Here is a Duck at least as big, which has all of the features the Turkish boat lacks: https://www.strannikoceanvoyages.com
She was built in the Seahorse yard under close supervision and has been all over the Western Pacific. No problem with airiness and light below.
Our Duck was built in Quebec and completed in BC, cruised the Inside Passage for a decade and then was shipped to NZ. She's been a great boat.
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