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01-25-2015, 03:30 PM
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Servicing seacocks
I'm going to service the bronze tapered seacocks while PLII is on the hard for a bottom job. I'm following suggestions on the Compass Marine How To website and he suggests using Spartan Seacock Grease for assembly and I have had no luck locating. Can anyone provide a source??
Also, the seacocks have a grease fitting installed. The CM site mentions a screw provided for "winter draining". No screw on mine, but this is where the grease fitting is located. Does anyone have the grease fitting on their seacocks??
Sorry for the fuzzy picture.
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01-25-2015, 03:43 PM
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Have you looked online???
a google search turns up Robinhood Marine Center
and I've contacted RC @ Compass and he can supply many more products than he lists on his "store" He's a good guy providing a great info service w/ his How To's so I've turned to him when I have a purchase. He's pretty good about responding in the off season - tougher when he's busy.
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01-25-2015, 03:44 PM
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It looks like the drain plug was swapped for a grease fitting.
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01-25-2015, 04:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry M
It looks like the drain plug was swapped for a grease fitting.
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Some folks do that to grease them while in the open position from time to time. When the cock is closed remove the grease zerk to drain water for the winter freeze. Same thread pattern thus dual purpose.
Just don't try greasing in the closed position
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01-25-2015, 04:24 PM
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Twice per year I spray all sections on all of mine with good quality penetrating/lubricating fluid.
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01-25-2015, 11:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bacchus
Have you looked online???
a google search turns up Robinhood Marine Center
and I've contacted RC @ Compass and he can supply many more products than he lists on his "store" He's a good guy providing a great info service w/ his How To's so I've turned to him when I have a purchase. He's pretty good about responding in the off season - tougher when he's busy.
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I did- and will give these guys a call Monday to see if it is available. Thanks for all the responses.
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01-25-2015, 11:46 PM
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Based on the apparent condition of the seacock in the photo, I'd consider replacing it. But it's hard to tell from a picture. I'd sure as heck shit can that cheesy looking SS 90 deg. fitting coming out of it.
If you can't find the Spartan grease, Ive been using Super Lube grease for years with good results.
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01-26-2015, 10:06 PM
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Trawler Bling??
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01-26-2015, 10:47 PM
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It's a thing of beauty Forklift.
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01-27-2015, 07:41 AM
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I see no scratches or groves from operating it with no grease ,
I would lap it in (or just check with a thin layer of grease) and enjoy the next 50 years , of service if maintained.
Just be sure its not installed with SS bolts.
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01-27-2015, 10:11 AM
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I used plumbers grease that is formulated for use on hot and cold water valves. Most plumbing suppliers have it in a small round tin. I sailed Cape Dry sloops and never used the Spartan seacock grease doing maintenance over a twenty five years of sailing and the plumbers grease worked very well between haulouts.
Your seacock looks like it may be bronze and if it is it should clean up nicely, I agree the zerk fittings look like a add on.
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01-27-2015, 10:15 AM
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Any water proof grease will work fine. Auto stores usually have it.
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01-27-2015, 10:58 AM
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Only see one hose clamp on that.
I do not like the perforated type clamps.
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01-27-2015, 12:44 PM
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Forklift, who made that seacock? It looks like a Wilcox Crittenden to me.
It's not a Sparton, the handle is wrong.
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01-27-2015, 02:37 PM
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Parks, I was hoping to find a brand name on the cleaned parts but no luck. Heading to the boat now to pull the remaining tapered plugs to clean. Gonna scower the housing and look for any clues. Interesting enough- the cotter pin that keeps the handle on is also bronze. Only dissimilar metal was the grease fitting. I'm also addressing hoses/ bronze fittings/ clamps as needed😊
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01-27-2015, 02:53 PM
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If you look on the body of the seacock you will see a letter W with a letter C imposed over it. That's the Wilcox-Crittenden logo.
Following is a page from the 1955 Hopkins-Carter Catalog showing what I believe is your seacock. No you can't buy them at those prices!
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01-27-2015, 07:54 PM
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Too bad. I paid more than that today for one bronze fitting😎❗️
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01-27-2015, 09:15 PM
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I had the Wilcox Crittendon in my previous boat. I wish I had them in my current boat. They were heavy duty pieces orf good quality materials.
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01-28-2015, 08:29 AM
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WC was orig in Middletown CT, (where our cottage is since 1950) .
They were driven out by the paper pushers that did not want any noisy smelly industry in their bedroom community.
Now much of the sire is housing in the old bldgs.
Left folks think business moves to get cheap labor , with out looking at reality.
Should some one need 2 inch thru hulls from WC , let me know, and I will post then in the for sale stuff.
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01-28-2015, 05:40 PM
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I have a tub of the Spartan grease from when we owned our sailboat (bought at RC's suggestion - the guy behind Compass). I either got it from Hamilton Marine or direct from Spartan, I just can't recall.
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