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Old 01-19-2021, 08:06 PM   #1
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See photos from survey

Hull survey today, ,he said cutlass bearings need to be looked at , minor separation but the real test will be on sea trial friday, if any clunk or vibration.

He said its normal wear & tear.

The other photo of the deck is a soft spot 1 square foot on top deck. possibly water penetrated from loose screws from railing.

He said its somewhat negotiable, Marina should repair ? he mentioned " Inject a deck " using drill holes or replace? its a non skid surface.
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Old 01-19-2021, 08:31 PM   #2
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If that was my bearing I'd replace it. It looks tired. More often than not the wet area in a laminate is three times larger than you think it is before opening it up.... some injections ain't gonna fix three square feet. Don't know if you're the DIY type but I would get a quote to fix it properly from the yard and then have him take half of that off the sales price.
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ok, i think half of the expense is fair.
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your cutlass bearings do look tired and I would replace them or at least use the surveyor information to bring the sales price down. I know that they are easy to replace with the proper hydraulic tool as I have done mine a while ago.
As far as the soft is concerned, they are easy to fix if you have access to them from bellow. If not, then I would agree with Oscar because a soft spot is usually bigger that think.
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The surveyor should have use a feeler gauge on the cutless bearing. There are specs on how much wear is acceptable or not.

As to the wet core, it is always larger than you think. It is pretty easy technically to do but can be just hard work. The glass work is easy, it is the surface finishing that takes some skill.
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I had a contractor use inject-a-deck on an area on my front deck. It has been about 1.5 years. It is still as good as it was the day they did the injections. I posted a thread here describing it. You can search for it.

The upshot is that I think it is a really good solution for a specific class of problem, specifically where the decks aren't bad enough to be worth replacing the core -- but also such that one doesn't want to wait around and let moisture get inside and stay inside to degenerate the decks to the point that they need replacement.

My sense is that the 12lb density polyurethane (foam) injections can fill small voids, displace tiny pockets of water, incorporate small amounts of moisture, and get a good bond to layers of wood that are in the very early stages of coming apart, all in all, denying water the chance to sit inside and rot and preserving things whole. In other words, it can preserve an improve decks that are just noticeably starting along the road.

But, I think one needs to read the words "small" and "tiny" there with a strong sense of reality. I view it as a way to stabilize decks in the early stages of a situation that would otherwise degenerate before they get "bad" much more than I do a magic wand to turn "mush" into something sound. I don't think the latter is easily possible.

In my case, the inject-a-deck solved a very specific problem which was that the PO had removed, glassed over, and painted the front deck, but didn't get it dried out enough 1st. There were some areas where the fiberglass layer didn't adhere well to the wood. The inject-a-deck got in and formed a thin layer between the wood and the glass and adhered the two together. There were also some specific small pockets in the wood where old deck bolts had left voids. In my specific case, it worked like a charm, tied things together, filled those small voids, and denied that space to water and thereby a future problem.

If I still had the boat in SoCal, where I could have gotten it really dried out, I'd probably just have used epoxy. But, in Florida, that seemed to me to be likely to have been repeating what the PO had done, and likely to get the same result. The polyurethane just works much better than epoxy in the presence of (small amounts of) moisture, both in theory and in my experience.
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Don't sweat the cutlass bearing, it's a wear part and needs to be replaced every so often.
The deck fix is pretty well covered above.
If everything else on this boat checks out these items are not anywhere near reason enough to walk away

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Thanks Keys ! i will have cutlass bearing replaced while its on the hard now. And for the small soft spot i will have the marina selling me the boat either knock off $$$ or they have to fix because i close the deal. Because i'm sure the survey report will have a lot of detail and my insurance coverage & bank people will probably give me a problem
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Silent,
Suggestion, if the marina is going to do the deck repair, have your surveyor oversee the repair. Wording in the agreement such that the repair will require the approval of the surveyor.

In that way, no unacceptable "short cuts" will be done.
Good call on getting the bearing(s) replaced. They will need it soon at best, so it is always good to start off from a good place.
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