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04-03-2018, 04:24 PM
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Senior Member
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Sometimes brand new rope is way too flexible to braid. I let mine "age" a few weeks before attempting. I know it can be done, but for me as a novice but skilled braider, I find this works best especially when attempting a challenging braid as you are.
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04-03-2018, 05:14 PM
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#42
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I haven’t done one for about 5 years but I don’t remember having any issues getting the strands through the link. What size line and chain are you using?
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04-03-2018, 08:02 PM
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It isn’t pretty. And it’s only my second practice attempt. Lol. Only three tucks. I’m sure it’s too loose.
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04-03-2018, 09:45 PM
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They don’t have to be pretty to work. It will get better with a few practice splices.
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04-03-2018, 10:09 PM
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Second the new rope being more difficult to work. I try to keep the twist in the strands as I'm working it. I've also used hair gel to help keep the strands from getting too loose. Apply, let dry/set before working the line.
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04-03-2018, 10:31 PM
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As Comodave says, it doesn’t have to be pretty. Looks good enough to me. I’ll typically do 5 tucks then cut one strand, do another tuck and cut another strand, and then tuck the final strand.
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04-03-2018, 10:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dhays
As Comodave says, it doesn’t have to be pretty. Looks good enough to me. I’ll typically do 5 tucks then cut one strand, do another tuck and cut another strand, and then tuck the final strand.
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04-04-2018, 11:21 AM
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I like to tape the ends and leave extra tape to taper to a point... helps feed thru.
Couldnt tell from pic are you passing all 3 strands the same direction or one opposite the other two?
See
http://www.animatedknots.com/chainsplice/index.php
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04-04-2018, 11:43 AM
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I like to use a thimble and a shackle......Unless you have a windlass gypsy to pull the joint through..
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04-04-2018, 12:00 PM
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Rode splice
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bacchus
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I put two strands through the link going one way, and one strand going the other way. The one strand went between the two strands. I watched a YouTube video of this being done, and that’s how they showed it. I watched the animation you provided. I think I did it right. I only made three tucks because I was just practicing. I figured there was no difference between 3 and 5 if I’m just seeing if I did it right.
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04-04-2018, 12:05 PM
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I think you are doing it right. Taping the ends of each strand helps. Using a fid helps a lot as well, although I did it for years without. I have used the marlin spike on one of my knives for a couple of decades as well. This last year I picked up a set of fids similar to these. It makes splicing quicker and easier.
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04-04-2018, 12:13 PM
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I have a fid. Two weeks ago I had no idea such a thing existed. To me it looks like a Stake for Dracula. Once I realized I was going to be splicing, I researched the equipment I needed, so I bought one. I even wasted my money on a book of splices. Meanwhile, I used YouTube as I do with everything else.
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04-04-2018, 12:22 PM
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Looks like you've got this, Alex. Time to try your newfound skills on the real deal. I find that wearing gloves aid in pulling each wrap or tuck as tight as possible before continuing to the next wrap or tuck. It might help to moisten the line...depending on the line being used. Give it a try on your test piece and see if it helps.
I recommend starting with extra long strands so you have plenty to pull with at the end of 5-8 tucks. If you do a fine taper on the final 2-3 tucks, it'll help smooth the transition of the splice into the gypsy.
I used blue tape after twisting the strands tightly and I tapered the blue tape. It seemed to help.
Cheers!
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04-04-2018, 12:44 PM
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looks great!
Pull the splices tight as you go and don't worry how it looks. Once you've got all your tucks, roll the splice between your hands or on the ground, back and forth, to work it until it evens out.
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04-04-2018, 01:10 PM
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Thanks guys for the help! I haven’t been part of many forums, but this has been a positive experience.
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04-04-2018, 05:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HeatherAlyssa
Thanks guys for the help! I haven’t been part of many forums, but this has been a positive experience.
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Welcome home, Alex!
Cheers!
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04-04-2018, 06:42 PM
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How many links are,or should be, incorporated into the splice? They tend to get hidden under the splice.
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04-04-2018, 06:42 PM
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#58
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Bruce, I think it’s just one link.
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04-04-2018, 06:46 PM
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#59
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Just one link.
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04-04-2018, 09:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BruceK
How many links are,or should be, incorporated into the splice? They tend to get hidden under the splice.
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When doing a 3 strand to chain splice, you just use the end link (although I have seen other ways of doing it). If you are splicing multiplait then you use multiple links for the splice.
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