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04-27-2016, 05:47 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Home Port: Buck's Harbor, Maine
Vessel Name: "Emily Anne"
Vessel Model: 2001 Island Gypsy 32 Europa (Hull #146)
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,846
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Codger2
My wife wants to get a Vitrifrigo but I think the money would be better spent on more electronics! What say you TF?
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Marital politics. Won't go there. Very dangerous ground. (Except, perhaps, to very subtly,suggest that..... Renee has to put up with you so she deserves something is return and you already got a new boat and some cool electronic upgrades and her immediate minor desires might be in your best long term interest). Just saying.
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Deer Isle, Maine
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04-27-2016, 05:53 PM
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Guru
City: San Diego
Vessel Name: Circuit Breaker
Vessel Model: 2021..22' Duffy Cuddy cabin
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 6,691
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dwhatty
Renee has to put up with you so she deserves something is return and you already got a new boat and some cool electronic upgrades and her immediate minor desires might be in your best long term interest).
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OK...point taken but you don't have to yell!
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04-27-2016, 06:56 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Home Port: Buck's Harbor, Maine
Vessel Name: "Emily Anne"
Vessel Model: 2001 Island Gypsy 32 Europa (Hull #146)
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,846
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Codger2
OK...point taken but you don't have to yell!
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Mea culpa amigo.
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David Hawkins
Deer Isle, Maine
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04-27-2016, 07:40 PM
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Guru
City: Cape May, NJ
Vessel Name: Irish Lady
Vessel Model: Monk 36
Join Date: Dec 2007
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We have a Tundra T-80 that no one supports anymore. It has a Danfoss compressor. It keeps frozen stuff frozen and refer stuff at 35-38F but the compressor runs 60-80% of the time @5 amps DC. The seals are still tight. I turn off the power at the breaker about 9PM and back on at 7AM otherwise it would just run all night. Refer temps still stay less than 45F. Anything we REALLY want to keep cold go in the Frigid Rigid chest. That holds ice for days without power.
Way back all we had was an Igloo 77 qt chest and a couple blocks of ice. No power use and it only needed ice every 3 days. We used the Nevercold for dry storage.
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Irish Lady
1984 Monk 36 Hull #46
Currently in Cape May, NJ
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04-28-2016, 12:57 PM
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Guru
City: East Coast, Australia
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 935
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We like our Vitrifrigo 2600. The auto ac/dc change-over unit failed after about 5yrs & I was told this is common. Very expensive to replace so we didn't, just run off DC now. Even so, if we could get a domestic AC fridge that would fit the space, we would. Auto-defrost not available on boat fridges ( AFAIK); domestic fridges have superior insulation, much cheaper and 25% cycle times vs 50% on boat fridges. (We have a decent inverter of course to make this possible.)
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04-28-2016, 01:37 PM
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Scraping Paint
City: Full-time onboard
Vessel Model: Trawler
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 929
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Our Tundra T-80 failed last summer and we replaced it with the comperable 8 cu ft Vitrifrigo. It has worked really well - we're quite happy with it.
We bought ours from Defender. Their price was the best and they got it to the yard we were at in 2-3 days from calling them. Incredible service.
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04-28-2016, 02:06 PM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,149
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffrey S
Our Tundra T-80 failed last summer and we replaced it with the comperable 8 cu ft Vitrifrigo. It has worked really well - we're quite happy with it.
We bought ours from Defender. Their price was the best and they got it to the yard we were at in 2-3 days from calling them. Incredible service.
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If not too personal, mind posting the shipping cost , ballpark good enough, and where to....
Might go the same route and have it shipped to the Cape May area.
Also...was it stock or drop shipped freight?
Thank you.
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04-28-2016, 02:20 PM
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Scraping Paint
City: Full-time onboard
Vessel Model: Trawler
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 929
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Quote:
Originally Posted by psneeld
If not too personal, mind posting the shipping cost , ballpark good enough, and where to....
Might go the same route and have it shipped to the Cape May area.
Also...was it stock or drop shipped freight?
Thank you.
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I asked Karen - we don't remember the shipping cost. It was reasonable. It was to Chesapeake, VA. I don't really know if it came from Defender or was drop shipped. I know Defender has a lot of stock on things like this. We just called and they provided all the prices and time estimates. It just all worked much easier than I imagined it would.
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04-28-2016, 02:31 PM
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TF Site Team/Forum Founder
City: League City, Tx
Vessel Name: Floatsome & Jetsome
Vessel Model: Meridian 411
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 7,332
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Quote:
Originally Posted by menzies
Stick in a domestic GE and decent size inverter.
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That is how I would roll!!!!! Looks great and I bet it works great. Not to mention frost free!!! And cheaper!!! Anybody want to buy a 3yo Norcold???...
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04-28-2016, 02:36 PM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,149
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Baker
That is how I would roll!!!!! Looks great and I bet it works great. Not to mention frost free!!! And cheaper!!! Anybody want to buy a 3yo Norcold???...
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Deliver?
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04-28-2016, 03:09 PM
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Scraping Paint
City: Full-time onboard
Vessel Model: Trawler
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 929
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Make sure to consider power use especially if you like being at anchor a lot. We were just anchored in the Bahamas for 10 weeks and it was very nice only needing to run the generator once a day, if that.
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04-28-2016, 05:17 PM
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Guru
City: Fort Pierce
Vessel Name: Florita Ann
Vessel Model: 1982 Present
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 1,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dwhatty
It would cost us at least a couple of hundred thousand $$$ to install one of those monsters as we'd have to buy a significantly larger boat to accommodate it.
Dear, how would you like that beautiful, big, new boat fridge you've always said you wanted to make your galley life easier?
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You miss the point, go buy a refrigerator, then shop around for a proper boat for it
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04-28-2016, 05:25 PM
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#33
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Home Port: Buck's Harbor, Maine
Vessel Name: "Emily Anne"
Vessel Model: 2001 Island Gypsy 32 Europa (Hull #146)
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,846
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mule
You miss the point, go buy a refrigerator, then shop around for a proper boat for it
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I thought that was my point.
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Deer Isle, Maine
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04-28-2016, 05:41 PM
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Dauntless Award
City: Wrangell, Alaska
Vessel Name: Dauntless
Vessel Model: Kadey Krogen 42 - 148
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 2,820
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twistedtree
When comparing power consumption, the number of amps draw really doesn't tell the story. The duty cycle is just as important, and unfortunately is often not available. If possible, look at the energy star sticker which will tell you how many khw it will typically consume in a year. I have found the stickers to be pretty much dead nuts on compared to actual use. Unfortunately the info is spotty when you get into mobile units, but it's still worth a try. You might be surpisd by the results.
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Yes.
But 5 amps is the draw, but it's only 50% of the time. Thus the Defender mentions 45 watts which is probably about right for that model.
I have two one freezer and one fridge and TOGETHER they use 5 amps an hour or 5 amps x 12 v = 60 volt-amps per hour or 60 watts per hour.
both my units are EXTERNAL compressors, which reduce consumption a bit.
Lastly, I love them, as they are very consistent. The freezer stays +/- 1 degrees at -04.F, the fridge is at warmest setting and stays at 41F
On amazon you can get a dual remote wireless temp unit for about $25.
Lastly, in my research, Vitrifrigos are all made in Italy, while the almost identical Isotherm are made in both Italy and China.
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04-28-2016, 06:06 PM
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Guru
City: Long Beach, CA
Vessel Name: Heads Up
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 42 Classic
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 956
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I have a stainless box on my boat and I was thinking about the Isotherm unit that sits in the engine room and has a sea water cooler.
Has anybody used one of these?
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04-28-2016, 07:18 PM
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#36
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Hospitality Officer
City: Pittwater
Vessel Name: Sarawana
Vessel Model: IG 36 Quad Cabin
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,897
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Capthead
I have a stainless box on my boat and I was thinking about the Isotherm unit that sits in the engine room and has a sea water cooler.
Has anybody used one of these?
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Not sure if we have the same set up. Are you talking about a Eutectic system.?
We still have the original system the boat came with, although with new copper lines compressor & condenser. We looked at replacing the unit, however its ability to reduce temperature quickly is second to none, so we stuck with it.Probably would not fit out a new boat that way though if we were starting from scratch.
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04-29-2016, 08:57 AM
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#37
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Guru
City: Long Beach, CA
Vessel Name: Heads Up
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 42 Classic
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 956
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy G
Not sure if we have the same set up. Are you talking about a Eutectic system.?
We still have the original system the boat came with, although with new copper lines compressor & condenser. We looked at replacing the unit, however its ability to reduce temperature quickly is second to none, so we stuck with it.Probably would not fit out a new boat that way though if we were starting from scratch.
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This is the system I am referring to.
Isotherm 2551 Compact SP Water Cooled Refrigeration Component System
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05-03-2016, 02:34 PM
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#38
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TF Site Team
City: California Delta
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: 1977 Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 13,728
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Well, it must be the season for fridge replacements. I got to the boat today to replace the house and start batteries and found my Norcold DE441 has died. It had been making noises for the last month or two so I knew something was up. It's about 15 years old so probably not worth repairing, right? Besides, it took out my frozen bait supply so it doesn't smell too good right now.
I'd like to remain with an AC/DC model so I'll also be looking at replacement options. Dwhatty, can you share cost and size data on your 2-drawer model? IIRC, that was north of $2K, right?
I'll also be considering this Vitrifrigo as a replacement option. It looks like it'll have more room than my Norcold but fit in the same cabinet space. I'd prefer a wood panel insert, but maybe my old one can fit??
Vitrifrigo Sea Classic C115iAC Refrigerator / Freezer
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05-03-2016, 04:13 PM
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#39
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Home Port: Buck's Harbor, Maine
Vessel Name: "Emily Anne"
Vessel Model: 2001 Island Gypsy 32 Europa (Hull #146)
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,846
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyWright
Dwhatty, can you share cost and size data on your 2-drawer model? IIRC, that was north of $2K, right?
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By $42. Including shipping. On Sale.
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Deer Isle, Maine
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05-04-2016, 07:50 AM
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#40
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Guru
City: Fort Pierce
Vessel Name: Florita Ann
Vessel Model: 1982 Present
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 1,935
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Two of the best days on my last boat were when I put the PIA worn out sliding glass door in the dumpster, the other when I put the Not Cold, the next day on top of it.
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