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01-20-2020, 12:25 PM
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Guru
City: Brookline, NH
Vessel Name: Shalloway
Vessel Model: Defever 44, twin Perkins
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 2,260
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Originally Posted by FoxtrotCharlie
If we had that much exterior teak I would also be tempted to paint - agree it may make the boat look more modern. But the only exterior teak we have are our handrails. Under the covered sundeck we have teak floor, teak wet bar, teak wing doors and teak cabin door. I have sanded and varnished all of that (except floor) with Pettit Flagship and it looks great - have to confess I do love the look of shiny varnished teak.
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I very much do like the look of the varnished teak, but I have so much exterior teak that it has become just too much to take care of to the level I want. I will still keep the handrails, caprails and flybridge rails and trim varnished, but I think its time to reduce and modernize the look a bit.
Ken
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01-20-2020, 01:30 PM
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City: Au Gres, MI
Vessel Name: Black Dog
Vessel Model: Formula 41PC
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 21,187
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If we only had a little of it we would leave it varnished but we have too much. Once we started painting it we found that we love the look of the ppainted much more than the varnish.
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01-20-2020, 02:29 PM
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Guru
City: Southport, FL near Panama City
Vessel Name: FROLIC
Vessel Model: Mainship 30 Pilot II since 2015. GB-42 1986-2015. Former Unlimited Tonnage Master
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,984
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Originally Posted by Comodave
I have never decided what I want to do on my boat based on what some future owner may or may not want. It is my boat, I do what I want with it. As to selling it someday, maybe, probably but every boat I have sold has sold to the first person that looked at it. And they all loved the condition of the boat, not telling me that I should not have done something. If the boat is in really good condition it will sell whether the teak is varnished or painted.
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Prepping with a sealing coat or two of varnish is a good idea and not just because it may be easier to go back to bright. It is highly unlikely that a new buyer would want to go backwards except in maybe small areas. Anyway, roughing up the varnished surface will be fine for readying the surface for paint, probably without further priming. I had a friend who did this on the underside of his teak rails which were oddly shaped with crescent crown and flat from side to side on the bottom. He didn't mind caring for the tops of his rails, but the flat undersides were of no interest to him. He said a lot of people he knew who went a'cruisin' painted over all the varnished teak before departure and later after the cruising would revert to bright.
The teak trim was an eye-catching feature of the GB42 back in the day when I bought it, and there was no way I was going to let its market value sag by changing that look. Had I suspected a future buyer would not object, I still would not have painted over it because I liked the look, regardless of the labor.
I have to say that after decades of keeping every bit of the exterior teak of the GB42 in excellent shape, I am a happy camper with ZERO exterior wood.
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FROLIC (2005 MainShip 30 Pilot II)
Panama City area
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01-24-2020, 01:10 PM
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#24
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Veteran Member
City: Clear Lake Shores (Boat in Sarasota, FL)
Vessel Name: Goodnight Gracie
Vessel Model: Mainship 430
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 73
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I have Pettit Grand Banks beige (Looks gray though) on my 84 Albin 27. The Previous owner did a fabulous job of it removing it around all the window frames and doing each piece and then putting new s/s screws in. To me it modernizes the Look of the boat boat and we just put Another coat on about every two years.
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2006 Mainship 430
Goodnight Gracie
Clear Lake Shores, TX
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01-24-2020, 04:28 PM
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Guru
City: Saint Petersburg
Vessel Name: Weebles
Vessel Model: 1970 Willard 36 Trawler
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 7,179
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I'm having my 1970 Willard 36 painted in AlexSeal. I hate exterior wood, especially in tropics. Was surprisingly affordable to have the caprails encapsulated in fiberglass and painted a contrasting color - somewhere around $1700 (Mexico) for caprails around flybridge and hull.
Pics from last week - she gets painted in a few weeks.
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01-25-2020, 08:48 PM
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Senior Member
City: Pa
Vessel Model: Albin 27 fc
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 117
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This was the old trick done on yachts kept in the tropics were used little . The captains would paint over the varnish out of season and then sand off and redcoat the varnish for the short season of usage. I’ll be doing it perminitly the Same way on my boat I hate the look of teak and the maintainance!
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01-25-2020, 08:56 PM
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#27
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Guru
City: Quebec
Vessel Name: Bleuvet
Vessel Model: Custom Built
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 4,375
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mvweebles
I'm having my 1970 Willard 36 painted in AlexSeal. I hate exterior wood, especially in tropics. Was surprisingly affordable to have the caprails encapsulated in fiberglass and painted a contrasting color - somewhere around $1700 (Mexico) for caprails around flybridge and hull.
Pics from last week - she gets painted in a few weeks.
Attachment 98639
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What's the point to encapsulate the rails in fiberglass?
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01-25-2020, 11:45 PM
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#28
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Senior Member
City: Offshore
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 253
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Be careful of using epoxy primer without a good UV protection paint. Epoxy primers I have used need serious UV protection paint. Epoxy primer can cause the paint to fail due to UV exposure. Good news is, they have great UV protection paints. Even clears can have good UV protection.
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01-26-2020, 05:39 AM
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#29
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Guru
City: Saint Petersburg
Vessel Name: Weebles
Vessel Model: 1970 Willard 36 Trawler
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 7,179
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lou_tribal
What's the point to encapsulate the rails in fiberglass?
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Caprails have 4 layers of glass that have been feathered into the hull, then several coats of high build primer, then AlexSeal (alternative to Awl Grip) - just like a proper hull repaint. Maintenance is identical to a painted hull. No more recaulking of caprail to hull joint, no more possibility of leaking hull-deck joints. And no more varnish. Once my refit is complete in Ensenada, we will slowly make our way to Florida, so Weebles will spend much of her future in the tropics where a professionally painted surface is by far the best defense against the elements.
My delivery career (mid 90s - mid 2000s) coincided with the end of the N46 production run, of which I delivered several from Dana Point to PNW. The last handful of N46s built had encapsulated caprails. Not only were there practical advantages listed above, but I thought it looked really sharp. I have lusted for them ever since.
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01-26-2020, 09:22 PM
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#30
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Senior Member
City: Bella Bella
Vessel Name: Tenacious
Vessel Model: Uniflite 31 FB Sedan
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 312
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