fstbttms, Have you had any experience with this paint:
Eco-Clad | Antifouling Boat Bottom Paint | Eco-Clad
If so, what are your thoughts?
Eco-Clad | Antifouling Boat Bottom Paint | Eco-Clad
If so, what are your thoughts?
I have never yet come across this product and have never heard of anybody using it. My advice- don't be the guinea pig.fstbttms, Have you had any experience with this paint:
Eco-Clad | Antifouling Boat Bottom Paint | Eco-Clad
If so, what are your thoughts?
I'm thinking, at least as far as boating is concerned, Washington State is the new California. You might want to consider some lobbying eforts while it's still legal to keep a boat in the water there.
We use our boat enough to keep the bottom cleaned off pretty good. And in this climate and water temperature, growth on the bottom is almost non-existent unless a boat sits for a couple of years or more without moving or being hauled out. Barnacles can be an issue on props, shafts, and rudders, hence our twice-a-year dives on the boat.
So the inability for divers to wipe down bottoms seems to be pretty much a non-issue for people who use their boats. Most of the boaters I know don't bother with a dive service at all other than perhaps to change zincs once a year or so.
So, not anything worth lobbying over.
I have my boat's bottom cleaned by my diver ten times per year (more or less) at a cost of $62 plus any anodes, etc. ...
Wow, that frequent? How warm is your water there? Yesterday, water in my marina was 58 degrees F.
Fastbottoms, I`ve watched it being done. 2 or 3 guys rock up in a runabout with diving gear and take to the water with air jet pipes fed from a compressor. Seen the before and after pics the divers send me. If I get in the water with sponge and brush it does much more violence to the a/f coating than a compressed air cleaning, it often spells the end of the a/f.Surely you jest.
Wow, that frequent? How warm is your water there? Yesterday, water in my marina was 58 degrees F.
Fastbottoms, I`ve watched it being done. 2 or 3 guys rock up in a runabout with diving gear and take to the water with air jet pipes fed from a compressor. Seen the before and after pics the divers send me. If I get in the water with sponge and brush it does much more violence to the a/f coating than a compressed air cleaning, it often spells the end of the a/f.
Maybe I`m making a mistake doing it this way,I need to know, I`m close to requesting a cleaning job. Your online name shows a special interest, tell me why you think the method is a joke.
They've outlawed copper bottom paint right? So now you and your fellow boaters will be the "guinea pigs".
No, we can still use bottom paint with copper in it up here.
Not for long-
On May 4, 2011, Washington governor Chris Gregoire sounded the death knell for copper-based bottom paint in her state by signing into law a ban on the use of the product on recreational boats under 65 feet — the first state to do so. The law prohibits the sale of new boats with copper paint after January 1, 2018, and no paint with more than a half a percent of copper can be used starting in 2020.
Thanks fstbttms, Could very well be that process,they do a lot of it so the special gear may be worthwhile. They definitely don`t just hand scrub. I never asked how they did it but it leaves the antifoul in ok shape. Glad to say my hull was not "extremely foul" but it was sure better and faster after they left.I suspect what you saw were divers using the CaviBlaster, which delivers a "flame" of water and air bubbles through a very expensive wand that implodes fouling growth off of hulls. Not typically used for cleaning pleasure craft. Designed to clean extremely foul surfaces.
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Tom, and others. What about this permanent bottom paint. It sounds like the hard coat to beat all hard coats, but in view of its name, and therefore likely ingredient, would it (is it) legal in the US. I've often been tempted..... multiseason antifouling 10 years protection hard wearing copper filled epoxy resin copper antifoulAs you may know, Skinny Dippin' is getting a "bottom reset". Media blasting the 20+ years of old paint off and getting a fairing a barrier coat applied. We have a unique and rare opportunity to change paint types. Since the first layer after the barrier coat is going to be hard bottom paint, we are strongly considering just using a second coat of hard paint and calling it done.
Thanks,
Tom-
Tom, and others. What about this permanent bottom paint. It sounds like the hard coat to beat all hard coats, but in view of its name, and therefore likely ingredient, would it (is it) legal in the US. I've often been tempted..... multiseason antifouling 10 years protection hard wearing copper filled epoxy resin copper antifoul
CopperCoat (and similar copper-loaded epoxies) have their fans and detractors. Those who've used it and claim it works well tend to keep their boats in low fouling waters for the most part, IMHO. I cannot recommend it, as it seems to perform very poorly here in the Bay Area. There has been quite a lot of discussion about it over on the Cruisers Forum, including some input from the company owner:Tom, and others. What about this permanent bottom paint. It sounds like the hard coat to beat all hard coats, but in view of its name, and therefore likely ingredient, would it (is it) legal in the US. I've often been tempted..... multiseason antifouling 10 years protection hard wearing copper filled epoxy resin copper antifoul
............ There has been quite a lot of discussion about it over on the Cruisers Forum, ............
Clearly you have never spent any time at SailingAnarchy.comThat's the only forum I've seen where the members argue more than this one!
Clearly you have never spent any time at SailingAnarchy.com
For some reason, once some people get behind a keyboard, they forget how to get along with others.
Wow! Pre spiced seafood for those who left the antifoul job too long.Many people swear that adding cayenne pepper to bottom paint makes it work much better.
I think they are just regular people who enjoy working outdoors with their hands. In a way, I envy them, but I wouldn't do what they do for what I pay them!Most boat drivers tend to be Type A and somewhat independant minded ..
Its not the keyboard they hide behind , its confidence in the validity of their ideas, usually backed by experience.
YRMV
I did my bottom two years ago. Before I started I subscribed to the Interlux forum and posted several questions related to painting the bottom. A moderator who works for Interlux asked me several questions and then recommended a specific paint based on where I kept the boat and how often I used it among other things. He recommended a hard paint that goes against conventional wisdom by some folks who operate in a tropical environment. After two years it's still in good shape.
I believe Petit also has a forum, you might get some insight by subscribing.