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Old 08-09-2019, 11:30 AM   #1
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Filters etc

I realize that I may be opening a can of worms, but here goes...

For oil, filters etc. Do you buy local or source wherever based on price? Are there a few good vendors you rely on?



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Old 08-09-2019, 12:06 PM   #2
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I realize that I may be opening a can of worms, but here goes...

For oil, filters etc. Do you buy local or source wherever based on price? Are there a few good vendors you rely on?



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My 2 centavos of advice, might I suggest OEM and or book specs. Guessing your engines are under warranty following OEM likely best practice.

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Will do OEM filters of course. Generally same prices then?

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Old 08-09-2019, 12:12 PM   #4
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Google the part number for the filters and see who comes up with the best prices.
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I use OEM whenever possible. They are (mostly) more expensive and may or may not be of better quality than off brand stuff. However no engine manufacturer is going to knowingly destroy their own reputation with cheap filters. Piece of mind is well worth the extra few bucks. Like said above google the part numbers for price.
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Engine makers don't make their own filters. How good it is depends on who made the filter. Youtube has several videos showing the insides of various brands. Generally the slower the oil goes thru the filter, the better it's filtered. Most spin on filters come in 2 or more lengths. The longer ones filter out smaller particles. Heavy duty diesels often have 2-3 filters splitting the oil flow so it passes thru very slowly.
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I buy Fram Tough Guard oil filters at WalMart.

Racor fuel filters from Fisheries supply
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Jim, for my Cummins engine I use Fleetguard oil and fuel filters. If I can find them on the shelf locally, I buy them from a local retailer. Most of the time that isnít easy so I then order online.

I would be happy to use non-OEM oil filters for my Northern Lights genset but Iíve not been able to find another filter that says it is comparable to the specíd OEM filter. As such, it is way too much money IMO.
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I use Fleetguard filters for my Lehmans. I google the part number and go with whoever is currently the cheapest at the time. I find that prices change and one time I buy from one place and the next time they arenít the cheapest.
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I use NAPA oil and fuel filters exclusively as well as NAPA oil which I buy in 5 gal pails and pump directly into the engines with service pumps in the generator room and engine rooms.

I buy genuine Racor filters by the case on eBay, not the “compatible” Chinese copies.
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I use NAPA (Wix) or OEM filters depending on where I am (Detroit Diesels) and likewise their oil. The guys at the local Detroit shop here in NC (now Western Branch) sold to me at commercial pricing which made them at or a little cheaper than NAPA so I went pure OEM once we settled down here. The NAPA oil (the 75118 at least) is re-branded Valvoline and the Detroit co-branded Mobil

By the way, I found that often times the local NAPAs had Racors at excellent pricing.
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They handle WIX (NAPA), Baldwin, others- all top quality. My 6BT is long out of warranty, so I'm not concerned with manufacturer's recommendations, but more with a quality filter. Competitive prices, good service, good X-ref for OEM numbers. I don't have to be concerned about finding filters in an unfamiliar area with a rental car, I order inventory when I'm in a location for long enough to get the UPS. Has served well for 10+ yrs.



After checking a few of the oil filter posts on the oil guy's site and others, I stay away from Fram & the other cheaply made filters. Just not worth saving a couple of bucks for questionable quality.
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Regarding Fram. Just their Greenville plant produces a hundred million oil filters annually. If they were producing questionable quality it would be newsworthy
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Regarding Fram. Just their Greenville plant produces a hundred million oil filters annually. If they were producing questionable quality it would be newsworthy
It's always been quite newsworthy to those who actually care about such things. There are a heck of a lot more that just care about price, or simply are influenced by marketing spend.
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Fram makes three levels of filters. Their aultra model uses synthetic media just as other brands of high end filters. That Fram criticism is very old news.
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They handle WIX (NAPA), Baldwin, others- all top quality. My 6BT is long out of warranty, so I'm not concerned with manufacturer's recommendations, but more with a quality filter. Competitive prices, good service, good X-ref for OEM numbers. I don't have to be concerned about finding filters in an unfamiliar area with a rental car, I order inventory when I'm in a location for long enough to get the UPS. Has served well for 10+ yrs.



After checking a few of the oil filter posts on the oil guy's site and others, I stay away from Fram & the other cheaply made filters. Just not worth saving a couple of bucks for questionable quality.
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Ok, first oil change and a diesel supplier gave me a Fleetguard LF3972 oil filter, ( 2019 Cummins 6.7L) but I see there are other fleetguard comparable numbers such as LF3970 and LF16035, that are more expensive and perhaps better? Cummins website/s are
totally useless...
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Ok, first oil change and a diesel supplier gave me a Fleetguard LF3972 oil filter, ( 2019 Cummins 6.7L) but I see there are other fleetguard comparable numbers such as LF3970 and LF16035, that are more expensive and perhaps better? Cummins website/s are
totally useless...
Bend the ears of the local factory trained and approved Cummins tech.
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With the exception of Cummins Fleetguard OEMs don't make their own filters, they have them made by a filter company to their specifications. Filters from reputable suppliers such as AC Delco, Wix, Puralator, Fram, Mann, K&N etc are equivalent and suitable for use. I would be cautious of off brand filters where you do not know where they came from. They may be made by a major supplier or could be a Chinese knock off. The same is true of lubricants, in this case no OEM makes their own lubricant.
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Youtube oil filter comparisons and you'll be surprised when some of the "big" brands are cut open and have less protection and quality than the no-named ones.
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Ok, first oil change and a diesel supplier gave me a Fleetguard LF3972 oil filter, ( 2019 Cummins 6.7L) but I see there are other fleetguard comparable numbers such as LF3970 and LF16035, that are more expensive and perhaps better? Cummins website/s are
totally useless...
There are several types of media and hence different filter part numbers.
I don't know which is which in that series, but you can google and find out.
Then make your choice.
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