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Old 01-20-2021, 09:27 AM   #21
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Here is a "last ditch" effort to try before you replace.

Get the isinglass Very clean. VERY!
Saturate a soft cloth with acetone,
ONE quick swipe. (up to down or left to right, doesn't matter, but only ONE swipe!)

(Will also work on foggy headlights on your car.)

It may ruin the Isinglass so try it on a small area. It will not be prefect but it will be a lot better.

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What kind of sewing machine do you have?
Sailrite LSZ1, the blue one. Walking foot with zig zag. You don't normally use zig zag for canvas, I got that to do sails. Walking foot helps a lot with vinyl windows, the material tends to stick to the table or foot, whichever side is up. The walking foot pulls the material through the machine from top and bottom together so much less sticking. Helps with several layers of canvas stacked also. You can do it with a regular machine, but it's a lot harder.
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Here is a "last ditch" effort to try before you replace.

Get the isinglass Very clean. VERY!
Saturate a soft cloth with acetone,
ONE quick swipe. (up to down or left to right, doesn't matter, but only ONE swipe!)

(Will also work on foggy headlights on your car.)

It may ruin the Isinglass so try it on a small area. It will not be prefect but it will be a lot better.

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Interesting. Do you follow it with a polish afterward?
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Thanks for the info on the blue sewing machine. I have a regular machine just trying to figure out if I want to get heavy duty one.
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Sailrite LSZ1, the blue one. Walking foot with zig zag. You don't normally use zig zag for canvas, I got that to do sails. Walking foot helps a lot with vinyl windows, the material tends to stick to the table or foot, whichever side is up. The walking foot pulls the material through the machine from top and bottom together so much less sticking. Helps with several layers of canvas stacked also. You can do it with a regular machine, but it's a lot harder.
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One trick I've learned is to cut a piece of the separating material most window material comes with to place under the window while stitching. It helps it slide smoothly and also avoids chance of scratching.
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I have a Sailrite 111 machine. They donít sell it anymore. It has the upgraded motor and it will walk through 8 layers of Sunbrella one stitch at a time if I want ti to. If you get an industrial machine make sure to get the upgraded motor it makes a huge difference. .
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I have a Sailrite 111 machine. They donít sell it anymore. It has the upgraded motor and it will walk through 8 layers of Sunbrella one stitch at a time if I want ti to. If you get an industrial machine make sure to get the upgraded motor it makes a huge difference. .
The LS & LZ machines will do the same with the optional but common " monster wheel" upgrade.
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We all used to use Lemon Pledge on floatplane windows. The can was the perfect size to put behind the cushioning on the seat back for a lumbar improvement. Every Beaver on the coast has had its windows saturated with Pledge.

Bit of drift there, but you can put it on a wet window and although everybody freaks now, we had rolls of paper towel. Regular Pledge doesn't work as well for some reason (lemon oil?) and it doesn't smell as good.

Try it somewhere and see if it works on Eisenglass. It certainly works on Plexi.
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Thanks for the info on the blue sewing machine. I have a regular machine just trying to figure out if I want to get heavy duty one.
Give the one you have a try. It might do it. A regular dress making machine not have the strength to go through heavy canvas, might bend things out burn out the motor. I started out with Mom's old 1950's Singer, it did pretty well but eventually the motor went. If your current machine seems to struggle, don't push it, just get a heavier duty one. No sense in killing a perfectly good machine.
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We all used to use Lemon Pledge on floatplane windows. The can was the perfect size to put behind the cushioning on the seat back for a lumbar improvement. Every Beaver on the coast has had its windows saturated with Pledge.

Bit of drift there, but you can put it on a wet window and although everybody freaks now, we had rolls of paper towel. Regular Pledge doesn't work as well for some reason (lemon oil?) and it doesn't smell as good.

Try it somewhere and see if it works on Eisenglass. It certainly works on Plexi.

I think the vinyl makers say not to do that. Supposedly hastens the clouding. Acrylic and vinyl are completely different materials. Vinyl is more susceptible to chemicals, I've seen bug spray and sunscreen do a number it.
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The LS & LZ machines will do the same with the optional but common " monster wheel" upgrade.
I added that to mine, I think it comes standard now. It does make a big difference, halves the speed (without it the machine goes too fast and is hard to control) and doubles the torque.
I got mine for the sailboat, most stitching on sails of zig zag do that's the model I got. Does straight too so works on canvas as well.
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FWIF I have used Pledge Furnature Polish on both Plexiglass and vinyl windows with great temporary success, Its a redneck boat repair.
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Give Plexus a try. We've used it on two different trawlers with great success. Make sure your windows are clean and free of dust before rolling them up; that helps prevent the micro-scratches that clouds the glass. We always wiped them down with a clean micro cloth before rolling them up, and try not to "squeeze" the rolled windows tight after they've been rolled: if the bundle is too large to fit in the strap holders, undo the whole thing and start over.
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I just bought a Mainship 34. Previous owner used an old cotton pillow case to roll up in the isinglass and that prevents sticking to itself and scratches. I'll keep doing that. easy and effective
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I too used 210 on an enclosure that appeared to not have been cleaned for several years.
Started with the 210 Plus, this is a liquid cleaner that is a little more aggressive than the 210 spray. Finished up with the 210 spray and was pleased with the result. The front center panel still has some yellowing but itís better than before 210 was applied.


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If anyone has a HD machine and is interested in DIY vinyl window replacement I have posted and attached a file re "How To" in post #203 in the DIY Canvas Tips Thread
https://www.trawlerforum.com/forums/...ons-22037.html
https://www.trawlerforum.com/forums/...tml#post496850
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"I think the vinyl makers say not to do that."

Well then you better not do it, eh?
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