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Old 01-10-2017, 10:50 PM   #21
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I have not used Tuff Coat, but my concern with it was that it has granules of rubber in the paint. Over time my concern could be that the granules would break out of the paint. I have been using Kiwigrip and so far love it. I have put some on some small vertical surfaces and it worked out well. I used a regular paint roller so that the texture would not be as rough on the vertical surface. I will be painting all the decks with Kiwigrip. I have lots of riberglass work to do before the painting.
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Not to go cheapo down market but a friend of mine who has a steel boat swears by garage floor paint according to him it's a great job for filling small imperfections and hard wearing.
I have no experience first hand, but I'm considering painting my decks this summer so I'm glad to follow comments here from people with practical experience.
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Old 01-11-2017, 06:42 AM   #23
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How is the Kiwi-Grip working out? I was at a local fiberglass supply shop and they are recommending Tuff Coat paint Tuff Coat Marine | Worlds #1 Rubberized Non-Skid
Has anyone used Tuff Coat?
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HI Henry, Kiwi-grip is holding up great! My only comment is to play with a few squares of cardboard before doing the boat. The more Kiwi you apply and the more aggressive you are with the roller, the more aggressive the cured surface will be. There is some shrinkage when it dries. We did the swim platform first. The dried cured surface is ok, but would have liked it just a little more aggressive. Rest of the boat is great as we went a little thicker and a little more rolling.

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Ted,
Thank you for the information. I am going to the dealer on Friday to see what my options are. We are going with a barely grey color.
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Old 01-11-2017, 10:28 PM   #25
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I would second the idea of practicing before you paint. We wanted a fairly smooth surface on the top of our sundeck hardtop so I used a regular 3/8" roller and got a little nonskid texture but not really aggressive. On the swim platform, we did the regular 3/8" roller around the edge and then taped it off and went with the regular Kiwigrip roller in the main area. It was very easy to apply and I think it looks great.
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My cockpit deck needs painting badly. The problem is that when I did my swim platform last winter I used Awlgrip and it came out spectacular. Yes, it's pricey and I did it in a controlled atmosphere and it's toxic, but I will regret using something else when I step onto my platform and then onto a lesser product on my cockpit deck. The bridge needs it too.
I'm not saying that all the above products aren't good enough. But I would like a consistent look throughout. Oh yes, the foredeck needs painting too.
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Old 01-14-2017, 07:34 PM   #27
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My cockpit deck needs painting badly. The problem is that when I did my swim platform last winter I used Awlgrip and it came out spectacular. Yes, it's pricey and I did it in a controlled atmosphere and it's toxic, but I will regret using something else when I step onto my platform and then onto a lesser product on my cockpit deck. The bridge needs it too.
I'm not saying that all the above products aren't good enough. But I would like a consistent look throughout. Oh yes, the foredeck needs painting too.
Not sure what you mean by toxic, it cleans up with soap and water. A quick check from where I purchased it, $126 a gallon including a 4" roller cover and free shipping. For 80 sqft. of coverage, I think that's pretty reasonable.

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Went with KiwiGrip with all deck surfaces. Very happy with it. Very very easy to apply and repairs perfectly. Feels just right under foot. Textured, but rubbery. The rubbery-ness makes it pretty darned durable when stuff is dropped on deck. The texture roller is easy to work with. If you want a specific color, you can bring a can of pure white to Home Cheapo or a paint shop for them to add pigment to your liking. Some tips on application include:
1.) Don't... apply when it is too hot (less than 80 degrees is good)
2.) Do... keep an extra roller ready and switch every 20 min or so. You will see the roller start to load up with "boogers".
3.) Always... pull the tape *immediately* after putting down a coat to avoid pulling the paint up wit hit. When I say immediately I mean pull the tape a few feet at a time as you are painting.

My only complaint is it holds dirt more than a 2-part poly with non-skid. The "trick" is... Apply Woody Wax every now and then.
Put Kiwi on my decks last September and it does everything you say but I will not use it again as after only a few weeks it looks years old and holds dirt like nothing I've ever seen and is impossible to get clean. I've heard about the Woody Wax thing but after spending that kind of money on a deck paint I don't think I should have to wax it.
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Maybe toxic was the wrong word. Respirator needed, I'll be doing the work in a small enclosed space. I'm one of those guys that follows every manufacturers suggestion and buys the compatible product to ensure the result will be as intended. I tipped and rolled, so I bought, pre cleaner, additives, reducer, converter, primer, non skid, etc. With that being said, I had a few issues that required corrective measures before I arrived at the final product. O C Diver, is that the price of the custom tinted color, or the straight white?
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Maybe toxic was the wrong word. Respirator needed, I'll be doing the work in a small enclosed space. I'm one of those guys that follows every manufacturers suggestion and buys the compatible product to ensure the result will be as intended. I tipped and rolled, so I bought, pre cleaner, additives, reducer, converter, primer, non skid, etc. With that being said, I had a few issues that required corrective measures before I arrived at the final product. O C Diver, is that the price of the custom tinted color, or the straight white?
Are we talking about the same product?

Prep is lightly sand the surface, wash with soap and water, tape edges as required, apply Kiwi and roll to desired texture. Kiwigrip comes in 5 colors, not aware of being able to custom tint it. The price is the same for all of the available 5 colors.

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Put Kiwi on my decks last September and it does everything you say but I will not use it again as after only a few weeks it looks years old and holds dirt like nothing I've ever seen and is impossible to get clean. I've heard about the Woody Wax thing but after spending that kind of money on a deck paint I don't think I should have to wax it.
Mine does hold dirt in the more textured areas. I use a stiff bristled brush on a broom handle with a little soap and water about once a month to make it look like new again.

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Put Kiwi on my decks last September and it does everything you say but I will not use it again as after only a few weeks it looks years old and holds dirt like nothing I've ever seen and is impossible to get clean. I've heard about the Woody Wax thing but after spending that kind of money on a deck paint I don't think I should have to wax it.
I agree that it does hold dirt more than a 2part poly with non-skid. IMO the cost is not much. Also we wash our boats every 1 to 2 weeks, scrubbing the decks with a medium stiffness brush. We are almost always barefoot or wearing flipflops. There isn't much dirt down here, just the white coral stone dust.

I could imagine in the Pacific Northwest (I'm from Oregon) it would be a little harder. Clay mud and slime mold from the dank weather. But up there everybody has steel/aluminum boats with adhesive "sandpaper" non-skid and they wear boots. So geographic location could be a factor in your non-skid application.
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Applied kiwigrip a few weeks ago on the aft deck of my Gulf Star 36 MKII I'm restoring. I posted pics on the other thread: http://www.trawlerforum.com/forums/s...ect-29367.html
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I agree that it does hold dirt more than a 2part poly with non-skid. IMO the cost is not much. Also we wash our boats every 1 to 2 weeks, scrubbing the decks with a medium stiffness brush. We are almost always barefoot or wearing flipflops. There isn't much dirt down here, just the white coral stone dust.

I could imagine in the Pacific Northwest (I'm from Oregon) it would be a little harder. Clay mud and slime mold from the dank weather. But up there everybody has steel/aluminum boats with adhesive "sandpaper" non-skid and they wear boots. So geographic location could be a factor in your non-skid application.
I consider $200US/gal. expensive.

We are currently cruising the Bahamas and Sharon is outside scrubbing the deck again (weekly) .... I can hear her grumbling it just looks dirty all the time. The name of our boat is DIRT FREE, ironic huh?

I applied it with a tight foam roller so there is little texture to hold the dirt. When we get back to Florida in Late spring we will overcoat it with something else.

Glad it works for you but we are not happy with it.
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O C Diver,
No, we are not talking about the same product. Reread my first post...I used Awlgrip on my swim platform.
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We've been usin' cheaper than dirt exterior water-based house paint for the 16 years we've owned our boat. Easy touch-up as the Kalifornia sun blends it right in. Bein' water-based, clean-up is a snap.
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What about truck bed liner paint?
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I've used Kiwi Grip for years, with consistently good results. It's best feature is that you can touch up wear areas and the margins fade into the existing surface. Drys very hard. Great product.
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We use Interlux Brightside Poly.

Should have put a small bit of anti-skid in or on it.

The light tan is Bright Side in all three pics. Same as the darker reddish tan on the cabin sides. The white deck in the first pic is old ?? but it's BS now. The green is gone. The cabin side is "Sundowner Buff". It has some red in it. It gets lots of compliments.

In the cabin I use "deck and patio" latex. Excellent wear resistance.
Very nice photos.
I totally agree on Brightside, have been using it for twenty five years.
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Passage Maker Magazine had an article about truck bed liner on the deck over teak. I spoke to the owner several years later about how he liked it and how it held up. He said it held up very well. He would have done it a bit lighter in color, but other than that he was happy with it. There is a Linex franchise in Tampa (maybe) that has done many boats. He uses a slightly different formulation than the standard liner material. It is not cheap. There isn't a franchise near me that has experience with boat decks so I am using Kiwigrip instead.
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